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View Poll Results: More cosmopolitan?
Boston 104 82.54%
Las Vegas 22 17.46%
Voters: 126. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-24-2020, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Originally Posted by lvmensch View Post
This sort of poll should define what it means...

Definition of cosmopolitan...


cos·mo·pol·i·tan
/ˌkäzməˈpälətn/
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adjective
1.
including or containing people from many different countries.
"immigration transformed the city into a cosmopolitan metropolis"

Against that definition I would think LV will do very well. For instance LV has a much larger Hispanic population and a similar white non Hispanic population.
but a much smaller black population and the black Hispanic and white populations are much more varied in Boston than LV. And Boston is still 20% Latino so it is not a small group. They're 42% of the schools.


LV= Black American, Mexican American, White American, Filipino

Boston = Haitian American, Irish American, Black American, Greek American, Dominican, Puerto Rican, Salvadorian, Brazilian, Jamaican-American, Cape Verdean, Italian-American, Vietnamese, Chinese.

Ethnically-it blows Vegas out the water

*i use American for longer standing/more assimilated ethnic groups int he city
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Old 02-24-2020, 03:32 PM
 
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No comparison between the two. Boston hands down.

Boston is considered an A+ Class city.

Las Vegas is considered a C city at best.
Yes, but that's not the question the OP has posed for this poll.

I'm sure Boston would also beat Macau and any random ranking its boosters can come up with, but does that make it the more cosmopolitain city?
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Old 02-24-2020, 03:36 PM
 
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Boston is far more diverse and far more cosmopolitan. Boston is like 5th most cosmopolitan city in the US after NY, SF, Chi and Phil
So Boston is more cosmopolitain than Los Angeles or Miami?
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Old 02-24-2020, 03:36 PM
 
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Uhm What? lol.

Boston has the the 5th most diverse food scene in the US, 13th in the world with 57 represented nationalities and plates in 2018. There are more than 61 today, surely placing it at 12 in the world alone.
https://spoonuniversity.com/lifestyl...ound-the-world

Its one of the densest cities in the country, and of large cities, ranks #3 after NYC and San Francisco. There is more than 15,000 people per square mile in Boston as of 2019 estimates. And yeah, that area also includes 8 square miles for Logan Airport. Take out that and you have 18,000 ppsqm. It also leaves out the cities of Cambridge MA, Somerville MA and Chelsea MA which are all en route to surpassing 20k people per square mile very soon. Somerville might have eclipsed that this year. Well find out. This means an agglomeration of cultures and proximity to many ethnic foods and neighborhoods.

Boston has 2 zip codes in the 20 most diverse zipcodes in the country.

Boston area has 6 Top 50 universities including Harvard (1), MIT (3), Tufts (25), BU (35), BC (38), Northeastern (44) and many others in the area that are respectable including Brandeis, Bentley, Babson, UMass Boston, Berklee, Simmons, Wentworth, Leslee, Suffolk University, Emerson, etc...

Boston leads in NIH funding which has lead to over 10 Billion dollars of life science investment since 2010, making it the top regional cluster, and only cluster on the East Coast. This drives in hundreds of thousands of international arrivals for Business every year.

Boston's tourism is also up considerably since 2010 due to a more than doubling in international tourists.

Unlike Vegas, Boston's Logan Airport sees about 9 million international passengers from many different countries with more than 10 flights a day this summer to London, and 5 to Paris. There are also flights to Tel Aviv, Dubai, Doha, Praia, Sao Paulo, Beijing, Shanghai, Hong Kong, Tokyo, Seoul, Panama City, Casablanca, etc.. for routes outside Europe. Both Delta and jetBlue use Boston has a hub, while Oneworld Alliance is drastically expanding the business routes from KBOS. Yes Vegas sees more traffic, but nearly as much business.

Boston also has a world-class Financial District, unlike Vegas. And with the help of its train system has a phenomenal highly ranked Transit network with more than 9 lines. (Blue, Orange, Red, Silver, GreenB/C/D/E, etc). It gives it much more of a city feel.

Boston area is also home to various headquarters including General Electric, State Street Financial, Liberty Mitual, ThermoScientific, Ropes and Grey, Wayfair Co, Reebok, Dunkin Donuts, Pumas NA HQ, New Balance, New England BioLabs, Akamai Technologies, Sanofi Genzyme, Raytheon, Alexion Pharma, TJX, Analog Devices, Boston Scientific, Vertex, and of course Fidelity Investments. Google, Facebook, Microsoft, Boeing, Amazon and many other tech companies have a huge presence in Boston driving up an international business, capital investment and visits to the city. This trumps Vegas.

Capital Investment in Boston is 3rd in the nation, just after NYC and San Francisco as well. There are also many many projects under construction that are enriching its core.. that is moving it up a tier. This draws international migration and domestic flow to where the jobs are and makes the cities more attractive for foreign arrivals.

Cosmopolitan? Boston.

I live in Boston. I went to school in Boston (Primary/Secondary-ish) and now I work there. There is a huge presence of the historical waves of British/Irish/Polish/Italian/Jewish migration from the 1700s-1930s. Following that another wave of Jewish/Lebanese/Italian/Portuguese/Azorean migration in the 1930s-1970s, and then now an even bigger migration of Puerto Rican/Dominican/Cape Verdean/Haitian/Jamaican/Sub Saharan African/Chinese/Salvadoran/Indian, etc. There are ethnic neighborhoods including Nubian Square (African American), North End (Italian), Codman Square (Vietnamese), Chinatown (The one in Boston), etc forming still to this day.
Spot on! Couldn't have said it better myself. Except its Fields Corner that is Vietnamese/Cape Verdean/Irish and Codman Square is African American/West Indian. but who's looking? lol
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Old 02-24-2020, 03:40 PM
 
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So Boston is more cosmopolitain than Los Angeles or Miami?
replace SF with LA... and yea it might be more cosmopolitan than Miami. They're very close. Again you're not familiar with Boston so I think it would surprise you what it actually like frisco. Extremely urban diverse and international.

Either way its heads and shoulders above LV and nothing against LV -I really almost moved there in 2017!
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Old 02-24-2020, 03:41 PM
 
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Originally Posted by masssachoicetts View Post
Uhm What? lol.

Boston has the the 5th most diverse food scene in the US, 13th in the world with 57 represented nationalities and plates in 2018. There are more than 61 today, surely placing it at 12 in the world alone.
https://spoonuniversity.com/lifestyl...ound-the-world

Its one of the densest cities in the country, and of large cities, ranks #3 after NYC and San Francisco. There is more than 15,000 people per square mile in Boston as of 2019 estimates. And yeah, that area also includes 8 square miles for Logan Airport. Take out that and you have 18,000 ppsqm. It also leaves out the cities of Cambridge MA, Somerville MA and Chelsea MA which are all en route to surpassing 20k people per square mile very soon. Somerville might have eclipsed that this year. Well find out. This means an agglomeration of cultures and proximity to many ethnic foods and neighborhoods.

Boston has 2 zip codes in the 20 most diverse zipcodes in the country.

Boston area has 6 Top 50 universities including Harvard (1), MIT (3), Tufts (25), BU (35), BC (38), Northeastern (44) and many others in the area that are respectable including Brandeis, Bentley, Babson, UMass Boston, Berklee, Simmons, Wentworth, Leslee, Suffolk University, Emerson, etc...

Boston leads in NIH funding which has lead to over 10 Billion dollars of life science investment since 2010, making it the top regional cluster, and only cluster on the East Coast. This drives in hundreds of thousands of international arrivals for Business every year.

Boston's tourism is also up considerably since 2010 due to a more than doubling in international tourists.

Unlike Vegas, Boston's Logan Airport sees about 9 million international passengers from many different countries with more than 10 flights a day this summer to London, and 5 to Paris. There are also flights to Tel Aviv, Dubai, Doha, Praia, Sao Paulo, Beijing, Shanghai, Hong Kong, Tokyo, Seoul, Panama City, Casablanca, etc.. for routes outside Europe. Both Delta and jetBlue use Boston has a hub, while Oneworld Alliance is drastically expanding the business routes from KBOS. Yes Vegas sees more traffic, but nearly as much business.

Boston also has a world-class Financial District, unlike Vegas. And with the help of its train system has a phenomenal highly ranked Transit network with more than 9 lines. (Blue, Orange, Red, Silver, GreenB/C/D/E, etc). It gives it much more of a city feel.

Boston area is also home to various headquarters including General Electric, State Street Financial, Liberty Mitual, ThermoScientific, Ropes and Grey, Wayfair Co, Reebok, Dunkin Donuts, Pumas NA HQ, New Balance, New England BioLabs, Akamai Technologies, Sanofi Genzyme, Raytheon, Alexion Pharma, TJX, Analog Devices, Boston Scientific, Vertex, and of course Fidelity Investments. Google, Facebook, Microsoft, Boeing, Amazon and many other tech companies have a huge presence in Boston driving up an international business, capital investment and visits to the city. This trumps Vegas.

Capital Investment in Boston is 3rd in the nation, just after NYC and San Francisco as well. There are also many many projects under construction that are enriching its core.. that is moving it up a tier. This draws international migration and domestic flow to where the jobs are and makes the cities more attractive for foreign arrivals.

Cosmopolitan? Boston.

I live in Boston. I went to school in Boston (Primary/Secondary-ish) and now I work there. There is a huge presence of the historical waves of British/Irish/Polish/Italian/Jewish migration from the 1700s-1930s. Following that another wave of Jewish/Lebanese/Italian/Portuguese/Azorean migration in the 1930s-1970s, and then now an even bigger migration of Puerto Rican/Dominican/Cape Verdean/Haitian/Jamaican/Sub Saharan African/Chinese/Salvadoran/Indian, etc. There are ethnic neighborhoods including Nubian Square (African American), North End (Italian), Codman Square (Vietnamese), Chinatown (The one in Boston), etc forming still to this day.
Question wasn't which is the better city or who has more corporate money.

Poll random people around the world about the two places-Las Vegas would win in a landslide as being recognized as an international destination that hosts world-level events.

The same question comparing Boston and Orlando would likely yield the same results-

A slew of boosters listing all of the ways Boston is the superior city, while ignoring the fact that Orlando is much more likely to pique the interest of someone living in Seoul or Frankfurt.
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Old 02-24-2020, 03:42 PM
 
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So Boston is more cosmopolitain than Los Angeles or Miami?
I will say Boston is more cosmopolitan than Miami. Miami ranks pretty low in many categories.

Also I am not a huge Boston promoter. I live in Philadelphia and often compare the two cities in different terms where they can match up. And often can be critical of the city. In this contest though, I will throw all my support to Boston. There really is no comparison between the two.
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Old 02-24-2020, 03:59 PM
 
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Question wasn't which is the better city or who has more corporate money.

Poll random people around the world about the two places-Las Vegas would win in a landslide as being recognized as an international destination that hosts world-level events.

The same question comparing Boston and Orlando would likely yield the same results-

A slew of boosters listing all of the ways Boston is the superior city, while ignoring the fact that Orlando is much more likely to pique the interest of someone living in Seoul or Frankfurt.
frankly, this is a juvenile way of comparing the cosmopolitanism of two cities.

whose populace is more diverse, worldly and urbane? Boston's.
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Old 02-24-2020, 07:34 PM
 
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Just because Las Vegas has a joint called The Cosmopolitan does not mean the city is cosmopolitan.
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Old 02-24-2020, 09:16 PM
 
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I hope this is a joke...and btw both the Harvard Medical School and the School of Public Health are within Boston city limits.

I think that thanks to its schools Boston has a lot of new immigrants (of different origins) that keep coming and going, this alone makes it much more cosmopolitan than cities with mostly second/third generation immigrants (no matter their race). Tourists don't make a city cosmopolitan, if that was the case Venice and Cancun would be incredibly cosmopolitan (they are not).
Not a joke.

If "Harvard" is the go to for Boston being a worldly city, then that's not too far removed for UT or OSU being the go to for Austin and Columbus boosters (except those institutions are actually located in the cities).


How many people around the world are interacting with Harvard in a meaningful way?

Compare that to the international engagement of Las Vegas.
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