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Brickell is more than TWICE as dense as Midtown. Same with LA. There are several neighborhoods in the Miami area (like Sweetwater) with more than twice the density of Midtown. Atlanta and Miami are not comparable. Atlanta needs to stick with being compared to Houston, Dallas, and Charlotte.
Midtown (for being the densest hood in ATL) has little foot traffic. Brickell is absolutely popping at night meanwhile even on the weekends Midtown is a ghost town.
Yes, I am aware of Brickell's "density." Highrises will do that to a city (See Toronto.)
And Miami is a party and tourist destination. It is bound to have more foot traffic than Atlanta. Downtown Orlando also has much more foot traffic than Midtown Atlanta -- doesn't make it it feel bigger, nor more pedestrian-friendly.
I'm more talking about the narrower streets, human-scaled development, and the general lack of giant intersections like this: https://www.google.com/maps/@25.7661...7i16384!8i8192
Yes, I am aware of Brickell's "density." Highrises will do that to a city (See Toronto.)
And Miami is a party and tourist destination. It is bound to have more foot traffic than Atlanta. Downtown Orlando also has much more foot traffic than Midtown Atlanta -- doesn't make it it feel bigger, nor more pedestrian-friendly. I'm more talking about the narrower streets, human-scaled development, and the general lack of giant intersections like this: https://www.google.com/maps/@25.7661...7i16384!8i8192
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^^Wow Atlanta really underperforms in density. sad. It's equal to detroit LOL.
And honestly even if it was from 12 years ago there wouldnt be much of a difference. Actually the way Miami has absolutely taken off this past decade, it would look even worse for Atlanta.
To be honest, Houston and Dallas are underperforming for metros their size in that aspect. They both have added about 1.5 million people since then however.
To be honest, Houston and Dallas are underperforming for metros their size in that aspect. They both have added about 1.5 million people since then however.
Agree. Meanwhile smaller metros like Minneapolis and Seattle vastly overperform adjacent to their size.
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Agree. Meanwhile smaller metros like Minneapolis and Seattle vastly overperform adjacent to their size.
Yep. Those visualizations were posted in an older thread a few years back on C-D, and those were the only cities available to show. I'd love to see something similar with more metro areas added, and with updated population densities.
Yes. The comparison is definitely apples to oranges. While Atlanta, like many metro/urban areas, becomes less dense and fades on its edges, Miami goes from heavily developed to practically no development once one crosses a line. It's as stark as the map suggests it is.
When approaching Atlanta, it feels the same as approaching Charlotte, Raleigh, or other wooded metros in the Southeast. It's not until you get inside the perimeter does it start to show signs of its population. This contributes to the way it "feels" as the topic title suggests.
To be honest, Houston and Dallas are underperforming for metros their size in that aspect. They both have added about 1.5 million people since then however.
Yeah your graphics didn't do the sunbelt cities any favors, although did your map include Deep Ellum in Dallas and the Galleria in Houston?
This is just a random street, not a defined district.
Stores are to the sidewalk, there's street parking, and a healthy mix of residential and commercial. ATLANTA WISHES.
I'm not saying they can't get there, but think of this: ATL and Detroit are the same size geographically, Detroit peaked at 2 Million and has lost a majority of it's population, and is still more populated than ATL.
Atlanta is worth observing, as to see how the infill will augment their urbanity. As of now, it's Midtown, Downtown and a handful of streetcar suburbs, that make up ATL's urban dynamic. They're doing a fine job stitching it all together.
This is just a random street, not a defined district.
Stores are to the sidewalk, there's street parking, and a healthy mix of residential and commercial. ATLANTA WISHES.
I'm not saying they can't get there, but think of this: ATL and Detroit are the same size geographically, Detroit peaked at 2 Million and has lost a majority of it's population, and is still more populated than ATL.
Atlanta is worth observing, as to see how the infill will augment their urbanity. As of now, it's Midtown, Downtown and a handful of streetcar suburbs, that make up ATL's urban dynamic. They're doing a fine job stitching it all together.
Not a “defined district?”
That’s Little Havana.
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