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Talking about Little Havana, Atlanta has zero interesting distinct neighborhoods. No ethnic enclaves, no neighborhood with distinct architecture, mid city.
Talking about Little Havana, Atlanta has zero interesting distinct neighborhoods. No ethnic enclaves, no neighborhood with distinct architecture, mid city.
Actually that's false. While Atlanta might not have an ethnic enclave like Little Havana or a Chinatown, but it does have plenty of interesting neighborhoods such as Little Five Points, Old 4th Ward, Atlantic Station, the up and coming Westside/Howell Mill district, Inman Park, etc. in addition to Downtown, Midtown, and Buckhead. Miami is pretty much concentrated to Downtown/Brickell/Midtown and Miami Beach, which is one reason those areas are more dense (but of course the geographical limitations are more of the main reason).
Actually that's false. While Atlanta might not have an ethnic enclave like Little Havana or a Chinatown, but it does have plenty of interesting neighborhoods such as Little Five Points, Old 4th Ward, Atlantic Station, the up and coming Westside/Howell Mill district, Inman Park, etc. in addition to Downtown, Midtown, and Buckhead. Miami is pretty much concentrated to Downtown/Brickell/Midtown and Miami Beach, which is one reason those areas are more dense (but of course the geographical limitations are more of the main reason).
Little five points, Old 4th ward, okay agree. Atlantic Station, lol no, basically an outdoor mall you can find in most decent major cities. West Midtown ehh...right now, no. Inman Park includes krog street tunnel, the beltline, and architecturally interesting homes, so i guess yeah.
Defintely no match for Miami which has Little Havana, Sweetwater (largest nicaraugan community in the states), little haiti, Hialeah, Overtown....actually here's a list of Miami ethnic enclaves (from angelscorpio in another thread). Blows Atlanta out the water.
Colombians: Miami Lakes, Weston, Kendall, The Hammocks, Brickell, Brickell Key, Pinecrest, Country Club FL, Palm Springs North, South Beach (5th St specially) Venezuelans: Doral, Weston Cubans: Hialeah, Hialeah Gardens, La pequeña Havana, parts of Allapattah, Wetchester, Orange, Flagami, Fountaineblue Puerto Ricans: Overtown, Allapatta Mexicans: Homestead Nicaraguans, or central America : little havana Jamaican, Dominican, Haitians, Bahamians: North Miami, little Haiti, Miami Shores (toward the West), Golden Glades, el Portal, North Miami Beach (this last one I am not sure 100%). Black Americans: North Miami, North Miami Beach, Miami Gardens, Overtown, Norland, Orange, Homestead West, West little river, Wynwood (but not predominantly), Brownville, Allapattah, Princenton, Naranja. Non Hispanic White: Hallandale (specially Russians, Ukranians), South Beach, North Miami Beach, Aventura. Bal Harbour, all the way down 2nd ave on Biscayne Blvd, Biscayne Park, Key Biscayne, Pincrest, Coral Gables, Miami Springs, Virgina Gardens, Brickell, Coconut Grove Palmetto Bay, Cuttler Bay, East of Homestead, and some ranches scattered around, and in general everything next to the beach.
Asians: Dadeland and adjacent areas, North Miami Beach (like Marc said) Brazilians: North Bay Village, North Beach, Dadeland (less so), Pompano Beach & Deerfield Beach (Broward) Peruvians: North Miami Beach, Midtown area, Kendall, West Kendall
Caribbean Countries/Bahamas: West Perrine, Cutler Bay, South Miami Heights, Palmetto Estates, Goulds. Venezuelans: Cutler Bay and Homestead (mainly recently). Mexicans: Princeton (including new communities off 112 Ave), Naranja.
That's just a neighborhood though. For example, in my hometown we have Over-The-Rhine. A dense walkable neighborhood. Within that hood, there's the Gateway district, the Main Street district, Pendleton etc... all within the neighborhood. In a lot of places districts and neighborhoods are synonymous because most of the residential areas are suburban in nature. Anywhere with a semblance of urbanity is dressed up as a district. Little Havana looks like the base model for Miami urbanity.
Agree. Meanwhile smaller metros like Minneapolis and Seattle vastly overperform adjacent to their size.
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Yep. Those visualizations were posted in an older thread a few years back on C-D, and those were the only cities available to show. I'd love to see something similar with more metro areas added, and with updated population densities.
And there's good reason for that as both Seattle and Minny had earlier growth spurts than Dallas or Houston so their design is more compact.
Talking about Little Havana, Atlanta has zero interesting distinct neighborhoods. No ethnic enclaves, no neighborhood with distinct architecture, mid city.
Have you been to Buford Highway? There are Viet and Korea towns scattered through that corridor. Atlanta trumps Miami when it comes to Asian enclaves. However, Miami obviously trumps Atlanta when it comes to Latin American enclaves. Atlanta also has a large Indian population.
Little five points, Old 4th ward, okay agree. Atlantic Station, lol no, basically an outdoor mall you can find in most decent major cities. West Midtown ehh...right now, no. Inman Park includes krog street tunnel, the beltline, and architecturally interesting homes, so i guess yeah.
Defintely no match for Miami which has Little Havana, Sweetwater (largest nicaraugan community in the states), little haiti, Hialeah, Overtown....actually here's a list of Miami ethnic enclaves (from angelscorpio in another thread). Blows Atlanta out the water.
Colombians: Miami Lakes, Weston, Kendall, The Hammocks, Brickell, Brickell Key, Pinecrest, Country Club FL, Palm Springs North, South Beach (5th St specially) Venezuelans: Doral, Weston Cubans: Hialeah, Hialeah Gardens, La pequeña Havana, parts of Allapattah, Wetchester, Orange, Flagami, Fountaineblue Puerto Ricans: Overtown, Allapatta Mexicans: Homestead Nicaraguans, or central America : little havana Jamaican, Dominican, Haitians, Bahamians: North Miami, little Haiti, Miami Shores (toward the West), Golden Glades, el Portal, North Miami Beach (this last one I am not sure 100%). Black Americans: North Miami, North Miami Beach, Miami Gardens, Overtown, Norland, Orange, Homestead West, West little river, Wynwood (but not predominantly), Brownville, Allapattah, Princenton, Naranja. Non Hispanic White: Hallandale (specially Russians, Ukranians), South Beach, North Miami Beach, Aventura. Bal Harbour, all the way down 2nd ave on Biscayne Blvd, Biscayne Park, Key Biscayne, Pincrest, Coral Gables, Miami Springs, Virgina Gardens, Brickell, Coconut Grove Palmetto Bay, Cuttler Bay, East of Homestead, and some ranches scattered around, and in general everything next to the beach.
Asians: Dadeland and adjacent areas, North Miami Beach (like Marc said) Brazilians: North Bay Village, North Beach, Dadeland (less so), Pompano Beach & Deerfield Beach (Broward) Peruvians: North Miami Beach, Midtown area, Kendall, West Kendall
Caribbean Countries/Bahamas: West Perrine, Cutler Bay, South Miami Heights, Palmetto Estates, Goulds. Venezuelans: Cutler Bay and Homestead (mainly recently). Mexicans: Princeton (including new communities off 112 Ave), Naranja.
Don't forget to not mix up ethnic enclaves and just an area with a high concentration of a cultural group. Don't forget an ethnic enclave is more than just who resides there, but also socioeconomic factors. So Hialeah would for sure be a Cuban enclave, since it is 90% Cuban and has a distinct cultural identity and socioeconomic activity. Little Haiti will qualify as well, even though the area is getting gentrified. Wynwood is no longer (never was) an ethnic enclave, especially now as a overrated and dying hipster area. The same applies to Dadeland/North Miami Beach, sure there's more Asians there than most parts of Miami, but there is no distinct Asian presence there, nor any socioeconomic activity. There's a reason why there is no Chinatown or Koreatown or Japantown there... cause Miami is purely Pan-American city. If there is high cultural concentration but no distinct cultural identity or socioeconomic factors, it's not an ethnic enclave.
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Miami also has the second highest percentage Jewish population in the US within its metro, trailing only the NYC/Newark/Jersey metro. I would definitely consider Surfside/Bal Harbour and mid beach (Arthur Godfrey Road/41st St) enclaves where Orthodox Jewish culture not only resides but is practiced—whether originally from South America, Israel, Europe/Russia, Africa or the US.
Miami also has the second highest percentage Jewish population in the US within its metro, trailing only the NYC/Newark/Jersey metro. I would definitely consider Surfside/Bal Harbour and mid beach (Arthur Godfrey Road/41st St) enclaves where Orthodox Jewish culture not only resides but is practiced—whether originally from South America, Israel, Europe/Russia, Africa or the US.
Surfside yes, same with 41st street. These locations make sense given how in the past, Jewish people were segregated in these areas and were not allowed in the city of Miami proper.
Have you been to Buford Highway? There are Viet and Korea towns scattered through that corridor. Atlanta trumps Miami when it comes to Asian enclaves. However, Miami obviously trumps Atlanta when it comes to Latin American enclaves. Atlanta also has a large Indian population.
If you add in Duluth, Suwanee, Johns Creek then it's an even bigger win in terms of Asian.
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