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I just found that "population-maxing" post a bit strange where Boston's population doubled and seemed to imply that Chicago and NYC wouldn't also have adjacent urban suburbs that might inflate the perception of the city's size or true urban footprint.
Seems to me that there are plenty of other places around the country where population centers run into each other while being separated by political boundaries.
If that’s a concern for you, then use the CSA populations. That definition paints with as wide a brush as possible for all 3 cities. No need to worry about what’s in and what’s out. Furthermore, the definition is created by a neutral 3rd party with no particular skin in this game.
I just found that "population-maxing" post a bit strange where Boston's population doubled and seemed to imply that Chicago and NYC wouldn't also have adjacent urban suburbs that might inflate the perception of the city's size or true urban footprint.
Seems to me that there are plenty of other places around the country where population centers run into each other while being separated by political boundaries.
Its just that not all of those places are asking for bonus points because of it.
It's more so to do with the geographic proximity/functionality than arbitrary political limits.
Chicago & NYC's urban "suburbs" just happen to be in their administrative limits due to the cities annexing land, where as a city like Boston didn't annex so they lie "outside" of the city limits despite geographically being no more distant or integrated/connected to the urban fabric.
Functionally they are all the same and to a tourist you'd be none the wiser.
It's more so to do with the geographic proximity/functionality than arbitrary political limits.
Chicago & NYC's urban "suburbs" just happen to be in their administrative limits due to the cities annexing land, where as a city like Boston didn't annex so they lie "outside" of the city limits despite geographically being no more distant or integrated/connected to the urban fabric.
Functionally they are all the same and to a tourist you'd be none the wiser.
A city boundary.
A county boundary.
A river boundary.
If only there was some way for people to tell these places apart!
It’s just true that bostons urban suburbs function differently than most American cities in their proximity and integration to the major city downtown.
Not Boston is Basically all the northern extensions outside of downtown (red green, orange and blue) the green line for swaths west in Brookline and large swaths of red line south into Quincy.
Do you think up to 40% or more of chicagos city subway is not in chicago ?
Should we think about what the acronyms "MBTA" and "CTA" stand for? Or would that not be helpful for Boston?
For context, what does "BART" stand for, and what percentage of those stations are outside of San Francisco?
If only there was some way for people to tell these places apart!
The issue is a small part of Boston is north of at least one of those.
East Boston is an isthmus to the North East of downtown. Five Islands put together with landfill justtibg out into the Boston Harbor…i think-not sure what the body of water is called.
Charlestown is north of the Mystic River randomly (someone told you the history of that) and touches Somerville with a land boundary. Together they contain about 8-9% of the city’s population.
You just don't know the area enough. Which I think everyone has told you. Mystic River is anotherBoston movie.
As for countiew I didn't even know what a county was till I was like 20 years old. It's not relevant in terms of a boundary really. Lotta people there don't know what a county is supposed to do normally.
Should we think about what the acronyms "MBTA" and "CTA" stand for? Or would that not be helpful for Boston?
For context, what does "BART" stand for, and what percentage of those stations are outside of San Francisco?
And this semantics game is all fine for you to discuss on your computer wherever you are. But what does it matter when I’m in downtown Boston and go to dinner in Union square somerville by hopping on subway for a few minutes. Does Cambridge, somerville, chelsea not add to the size and feel of Boston. Guess what they do.
I know its a very discerning crowd here, so I'll refrain from making any further comments on the geographic location of the Massachusetts Bay until I"ve actually been there.
If only there was some way for people to tell these places apart!
Whats you're point? Nobody in this forum debates cities based on their municipal boundaries as those are arbitrary in the context of how they function on the ground in real life.
The boroughs of NYC are their own counties so again, you're weakening your own argument.
Parts of Boston proper lie, north of the river.
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