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View Poll Results: Should Tesla Pick Austin or Tulsa For Its New GigaFactory?
Austin 44 41.90%
Tulsa 61 58.10%
Voters: 105. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-13-2020, 01:58 PM
 
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Obviously this project would be a much bigger boon for Tulsa, but logically Austin just makes more sense.
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Old 07-13-2020, 05:33 PM
 
Location: PNW
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Yeah I also honestly think Musk is kind of an off-the-wall CEO that isn't going to just locate where the obvious tech hubs are.

He is most certainly not particularly leftist and does not want to be beholden to many of the rules and stipulations that places like California would impose for workers. He doesn't really care what the means are, he just really wants to raise as much capital as easily and quickly as possible, with as few hurdles, to fund his true life project which is clearly some form of space colonization. So, Tulsa is likelier the much more friendly locale willing to give more concessions to help his work than Austin.
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Old 07-14-2020, 10:20 PM
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Location: Fort Worth
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Are you up to date on the significant changes made for the better in Oklahoma alcohol laws enacted since October 2018?
That means nothing to me on this topic...
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Old 07-15-2020, 12:02 AM
 
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Texas county approves tax breaks for Tesla, if it builds a $1.1 billion car plant near Austin

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/14/texa...ar-austin.html
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Old 07-15-2020, 06:20 AM
 
Location: Sweet Home Chicago!
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Haven't followed this too closely. Is there any deadline for the selection?
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Old 07-15-2020, 01:10 PM
 
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Yeah I also honestly think Musk is kind of an off-the-wall CEO that isn't going to just locate where the obvious tech hubs are.

He is most certainly not particularly leftist and does not want to be beholden to many of the rules and stipulations that places like California would impose for workers. He doesn't really care what the means are, he just really wants to raise as much capital as easily and quickly as possible, with as few hurdles, to fund his true life project which is clearly some form of space colonization. So, Tulsa is likelier the much more friendly locale willing to give more concessions to help his work than Austin.
Jeff Bezos is an off the wall CEO as well and he located the second HQ in a NoVA, not exactly a surprise.
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Old 07-15-2020, 11:38 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Texas county approves tax breaks for Tesla, if it builds a $1.1 billion car plant near Austin

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/14/texa...ar-austin.html
That's surely what Tesla has been patiently waiting for. If the Gov. of Oklahoma and others had something better to offer during their meeting in Tulsa on July 3, it would have gone to Tulsa by now. Maybe the meeting was mainly for PR to make Tulsa look good. Tulsa can hope it will be in the running again if Tesla wants to build another plant.
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Old 07-16-2020, 01:22 AM
 
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That's surely what Tesla has been patiently waiting for. If the Gov. of Oklahoma and others had something better to offer during their meeting in Tulsa on July 3, it would have gone to Tulsa by now. Maybe the meeting was mainly for PR to make Tulsa look good. Tulsa can hope it will be in the running again if Tesla wants to build another plant.
What's sad about it is Travis County didn't even need to do this. Tesla was probably going to select them any way, and even if they didn't, Austin hardly needs this type of project.

I guess we still haven't learned our lesson from the HQ2 scam (although Musk certainly learned a lot from Bezos).
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Old 07-16-2020, 09:17 AM
 
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What's sad about it is Travis County didn't even need to do this. Tesla was probably going to select them any way, and even if they didn't, Austin hardly needs this type of project.

I guess we still haven't learned our lesson from the HQ2 scam (although Musk certainly learned a lot from Bezos).
I disagree a little. This project should offer some high quality blue-collar jobs, which is something the area could use, and it will be located in a very undeveloped part of Travis County. If it was a tech/corporate office going to a in-demand part of the city (like Amazon HQ2), I'd agree that wouldn't be worth incentives.

Right now this area is basically empty land, so the opportunity cost of having a Tesla factory there is pretty low...
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Old 07-21-2020, 09:58 AM
 
Location: Shaker Heights, OH
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I'd rather see it in Tulsa, it would make a bigger impact there. It would get a huge boost like Reno did. I've always liked and been intrigued by Tulsa. It has great history and awesome buildings and it has great projects recently completed and in planning. The BOK Center is an awesome structure and one of the greatest successes among arenas in the country. It would be awesome to see how the city might transform by landing this project.
Yeah, that whole Tulsa Greenwood Massacre was "great".
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