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View Poll Results: Should Tesla Pick Austin or Tulsa For Its New GigaFactory?
Austin 44 41.90%
Tulsa 61 58.10%
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Old 06-03-2020, 08:38 AM
 
Location: OC
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Yes, this is very true. Austin did NOT want to grow to what it is today. They want things to return to the way they were before they become a tech hub and mainly associate only with locals. They harshly retaliate to anyone considering to move there as well as any business expansion or growth. Austin is NOT Dallas in terms of being pro-growth. Sometimes I feel this is actually the reason Austin attracts so many corporations, people want what they can't have.

Austin's people themselves are friendly in person but just hint that you're thinking about moving to Austin in their forums and you will be absolutely shocked at some of the responses you'll get.
I am no psychologist, but I think there's something to this, and not just from a perspective on Texas cities. I think it often applies to romantic situations, colleges, hell, not to get too political, but non-smokers have successfully banned smoking in bars in most major cities and the primary reason is bars that allowed smoking were much busier. I guess the last example is sort of a reversal?

Anyways, I think people in Austin are generally nice and polite, but there's definitely a "you can visit, but be sure to leave attitude" and if you ever mention the possibility of a business moving there, the response is "lord I hope not." If you remember there plan to land Amazon 2 was pretty vague and half-baked.
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Old 06-03-2020, 09:09 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Yes, this is very true. Austin did NOT want to grow to what it is today. They want things to return to the way they were before they become a tech hub and mainly associate only with locals. They harshly retaliate to anyone considering to move there as well as any business expansion or growth. Austin is NOT Dallas in terms of being pro-growth. Sometimes I feel this is actually the reason Austin attracts so many corporations, people want what they can't have
I don't doubt Austin residents feel that way, but regarding business location decisions, it's business.

It feeds on itself. Companies will invest or more for cost, talent or related business reasons.
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Old 06-03-2020, 10:23 AM
 
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Austin is 2-3 decades away from just becoming another big city in Texas, just more liberal. I guess the real questions will be: How expensive will it get? Can it's infrastructure handle being a 4 million plus person metro area?
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Old 06-03-2020, 11:57 AM
 
Location: In the heights
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Austin is 2-3 decades away from just becoming another big city in Texas, just more liberal. I guess the real questions will be: How expensive will it get? Can it's infrastructure handle being a 4 million plus person metro area?
Well, you supposedly could always proactively and preemptively plan for accommodating that growth by having long-term infrastructure plans in place and acting on them. Why not do that?
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Old 06-15-2020, 04:56 PM
 
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If it comes to Central Texas it won't be in the Austin city limits or Travis county, that is 100% sure. I do think you would see excitement out of Hutto or San Marcos to land Tesla.
And, perhaps I'm wrong about this not being in Travis county?

https://electrek.co/2020/06/15/tesla...actory-austin/

I still think Austin is rather unlikely, but perhaps the Manor or Elgin areas are on the table. There is a freight line owned by Capital Metro that runs through that area. (CM wants to use it for commuter rail in the future).
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Old 06-16-2020, 10:23 PM
 
Location: C.R. K-T
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I don't doubt Austin residents feel that way, but regarding business location decisions, it's business.

It feeds on itself. Companies will invest or more for cost, talent or related business reasons.
Traffic jams, development restrictions/low availability of quality affordable housing, poor bang for the buck, degraded scenery tends to push people to seek cheaper, quality alternatives.

There are plenty of alternatives to Austin. San Antonio isn't too far away and the western suburbs of Houston are only 100 miles away. Nobody in their right mind would pay so much money to live in a city--despite the hype--with few amenities when there are bigger cities/metros nearby!
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Old 06-16-2020, 11:38 PM
 
Location: Land of the Free
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Here in California, people often say "Austin is the only place in Texas I'd live". For the most part, I agree with that. All the people coming to Austin from NY, LA, SF, Boston, etc can deal with the bad traffic, especially when it comes with the most scenic part of Texas.
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Old 06-17-2020, 12:00 AM
 
Location: C.R. K-T
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Here in California, people often say "Austin is the only place in Texas I'd live". For the most part, I agree with that. All the people coming to Austin from NY, LA, SF, Boston, etc can deal with the bad traffic, especially when it comes with the most scenic part of Texas.
Surprisingly Sacramento has the same popularity with transplanted Texans to California.

Actually the city council has been disinvesting its transportation plan and actively fighting plans for a coherent freeway system, hoping that these "rich" Californians will go away due to awful traffic and move to the bigger cities in Texas or out-of-state (and become their problem instead). Good luck connecting the city East-to-West by freeway!

Water is also an issue for the Hill Country. San Antonio's TV stations include the aquifer level in the weather report.

Texans know how provincial Austinites and the Hill Country are and their enchantment with the small-town atmosphere like San Marcos and New Braunfels down the highway. It's like spoiling Puerto Vallarta into Mexico City on the coast!
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Old 06-17-2020, 11:09 AM
 
Location: OC
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Here in California, people often say "Austin is the only place in Texas I'd live". For the most part, I agree with that. All the people coming to Austin from NY, LA, SF, Boston, etc can deal with the bad traffic, especially when it comes with the most scenic part of Texas.
I went to UT. A lot of the OOS students said the same to me. If UT weren't in Austin, they wouldn't have come.
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Old 06-17-2020, 11:11 AM
 
Location: OC
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Surprisingly Sacramento has the same popularity with transplanted Texans to California.

Actually the city council has been disinvesting its transportation plan and actively fighting plans for a coherent freeway system, hoping that these "rich" Californians will go away due to awful traffic and move to the bigger cities in Texas or out-of-state (and become their problem instead). Good luck connecting the city East-to-West by freeway!

Water is also an issue for the Hill Country. San Antonio's TV stations include the aquifer level in the weather report.

Texans know how provincial Austinites and the Hill Country are and their enchantment with the small-town atmosphere like San Marcos and New Braunfels down the highway. It's like spoiling Puerto Vallarta into Mexico City on the coast!
I can see Texans liking Sacramento for sure.

And yes, Austinites love that small town life.
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