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COL: Southeast
QOL: Depends on waht you want. Living in Raleigh or Suburban Atlanta could provide a higher quality of life than anywhere in the Northeast. I will say tie.
Culture: Northeast. Every city and state is truly different and unique.
Economy: Southeast
Character and Charm: Northeast
Transit: Northeast
Transportation (roads, etc): Northeast
Cities: Northeast
Suburbs: Northeast
Downtowns: Northeast
Higher Education: Northeast Harvard, MIT, etc
Schools (K - 12): Northeast
Climate: Southeast NC and VA are ideal.
History: Northeast PA and MA alone.
Favorite thing about the Southeast: The high-quality newer cities/suburbs. Raleigh, Charlotte, Nashville, NOVA, Atlanta
Favorite thing about the Northeast: Boston. I think a lot of people gave this answer, truly a unique city.
Least favorite thing about the Southeast: Outside the cities and booming metropolitan areas, it can get really sad fast.
Least favorite thing about the Northeast: Expensive markets and cities do not build nearly enough as they should. Even rural areas are rather expensive.
Winner: I think Northeast but it is so subjective and depends on where in what region you live in.
COL: SE
QOL: SE mostly due to COL. If you’re wealthy, NE.
Culture: NE
Economy: SE as a whole, but most of the top jobs are in the NE.
Character and Charm: SE. New England is great, but Savannah and Charleston are tough to beat here.
Transit: NE, not even close.
Transportation (roads, etc): Tie
Cities: NE
Suburbs: NE
Downtowns: NE
Higher Education: NE, not close either.
Schools (K - 12): NE, honorable mention to VA though.
Climate: SE History: NE. Florida doesn’t even really have much history prior to the 1960s.
Favorite thing about the Southeast: Florida. It’s a nice tax haven with great beaches and is still relatively affordable.
Favorite thing about the Northeast: Greater Boston. Boston itself is great, but I really like it’s suburbs like Brookline, Cambridge, etc.
Least favorite thing about the Southeast: Lack of economic opportunity for the vast majority of it.
Least favorite thing about the Northeast: Taxes, COL in general.
Winner: SE, specifically because of FL. Otherwise, NE.
What? Of course FL has history going WAY back from the 1960s! FL had thriving cotton plantations like its surrounding states in the 19th century. FL was one of the states that seceded from the Union to become part of the Confederacy at the beginning of the Civil War. Pensacola, Jacksonville and Tampa were important ports back to the 19th century. Tampa was the center of US cigar manufacturing in the late 19th/early 20th century, etc., etc....
And why is FL's alleged lack of history enough to dismiss all of the history of the rest of the Southeast?
COL: [Southeast
QOL: Depends on waht you want. Living in Raleigh or Suburban Atlanta could provide a higher quality of life than anywhere in the Northeast. I will say tie.
Culture: Northeast. Every city and state is truly different and unique.
Economy: Southeast
Character and Charm: Northeast
Transit: Northeast
Transportation (roads, etc): Northeast
Cities: Northeast
Suburbs: Northeast
Downtowns: Northeast
Higher Education: Northeast Harvard, MIT, etc
Schools (K - 12): Northeast
Climate: Southeast NC and VA are ideal.
History: Northeast PA and MA alone.
Favorite thing about the Southeast: The high-quality newer cities/suburbs. Raleigh, Charlotte, Nashville, NOVA, Atlanta
Favorite thing about the Northeast: Boston. I think a lot of people gave this answer, truly a unique city.
Least favorite thing about the Southeast: Outside the cities and booming metropolitan areas, it can get really sad fast.
Least favorite thing about the Northeast: Expensive markets and cities do not build nearly enough as they should. Even rural areas are rather expensive.
Winner: I think Northeast but it is so subject[/b][/b][/b]ive and depends on where in what region you live in.
You are not taking rural Maine, VT, Upstate NY, Western PA into account here.
You are not taking rural Maine, VT, Upstate NY, Western PA into account here.
The benefits within the population centers of Urban / Metro Boston, Greater New York City, Philadelphia and DC would outweigh the cons associated with a few rundown areas throughout the Northeast. Similarly to the Southeast, no difference in how I am assessing both.
I think the Northeast is losing it's prominence (not just among naturalized Americans but also first generation immigrants that historically migrated to the NE), so all of these categories go to the Southeast.
I think the Northeast is losing it's prominence (not just among naturalized Americans but also first generation immigrants that historically migrated to the NE), so all of these categories go to the Southeast.
The Southeast is King.
Really, the country's just balancing out to be more distributed equally in population. The oversized population and importance of the Northeast is a relic of the south being a disaster for 100 years after the Civil War while the NE trucked along. Had their not been that stupidity of plantation extractors back in the 1800s, the country would have been more balanced already.
Upstate NE is another discussion, but the BOS-WASH corridor is just simply overcrowded and expensive, it's no wonder people are moving to other opportunities. If you look at the 'Is the US overcrowded' threads, most of the *****ing comes from people in the BOS-WASH corridor or coastal California... Not a surprise.
Really, the country's just balancing out to be more distributed equally in population. The oversized population and importance of the Northeast is a relic of the south being a disaster for 100 years after the Civil War while the NE trucked along. Had their not been that stupidity of plantation extractors back in the 1800s, the country would have been more balanced already.
Upstate NE is another discussion, but the BOS-WASH corridor is just simply overcrowded and expensive, it's no wonder people are moving to other opportunities. If you look at the 'Is the US overcrowded' threads, most of the *****ing comes from people in the BOS-WASH corridor or coastal California... Not a surprise.
Boston has seen net inward migration. The people who leave are generally the ones who lack the 21st century job skills to afford the housing. You see that all along the Northeast Corridor. The way you create wealth in 2021 is by generating intellectual property. There are pockets of it in the southeast. Atlanta, clearly. Raleigh-Durham. Nashville. Much of the growth in the southeast is labor cost arbitrage for things that don’t create intellectual property. Bank office drones in Charlotte. Auto assembly plants. It started more than a century ago with textiles.
Boston has seen net inward migration. The people who leave are generally the ones who lack the 21st century job skills to afford the housing. You see that all along the Northeast Corridor. The way you create wealth in 2021 is by generating intellectual property. There are pockets of it in the southeast. Atlanta, clearly. Raleigh-Durham. Nashville. Much of the growth in the southeast is labor cost arbitrage for things that don’t create intellectual property. Bank office drones in Charlotte. Auto assembly plants. It started more than a century ago with textiles.
This is simply not true. If you are referring to 'start ups', those are a very small, specific field in nearly every market. Boston has its fair share of corporate drone jobs (Probably more than Charlotte on a % level).
People move from Boston (And NYC, PHL, DC, Chi, Cle etc) because of three reasons. Weather/Lifestyle Change, Job Relocation/Job Opportunities & Retirement/Tax Burden let up. I don't think the average person leaving Boston is going "Oh no, well I dont have 21st century intellectual property. Time to go to Orlando!".
Boston is seeing inward migration because there are jobs there and the quality of services in MA are far greater than anywhere in the northeast (Recreation, Healthcare, Education, etc). It also helps there are 55 stellar universities within an hour of Beacon Hill. Companies have been expanding and putting new offices/labs around the GBA and people have followed (Or stayed, if they went to uni here).
COL:tie
QOL:NE
Culture:NE (the South has better music and litterateur but the North appreciates culture more and elevates it in a way the South can’t
Economy:NE the North (and west coast) continue to drive the US economy. Most Southern states are relying on low wage job growth and senior citizens living off of savings (so they aren’t contributing long term to the local economies). The low wage jobs don’t come with benefits and the retirees get older and more expensive every day. State governments are severely underfunded and the population gets unhealthier and more expensive with each passing year.
Character and Charm: NE. The SE certainly has charming towns but the stratified economy and inequality in said towns make them not so charming after one spends enough time in them to venture outside of the “historic” parts.
Transit: NE
Transportation (roads, etc): SE
Cities:NE
Suburbs:NE
Downtowns:NE
Higher Education:NE
Schools (K - 12):NE
Climate: SE
History:tie
Favorite thing about the Southeast: sultry evenings, fragrant air and the cacophony of insect noise May-October
Favorite thing about the Northeast: art, population density (let me be anonymous please).
Least favorite thing about the Southeast: it gets dumpy and trashy 5-10 miles outside of every downtown area. The houses with mildew covered vinyl siding and yards strewn with broken toys (and busted boast and cars) are sad and creepy and ubiquitous. The roads are lined with litter.
Least favorite thing about the Northeast: dirty snow.
Winner: North East
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