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Can anybody else provide some options for cities that aren't Fast growing and/or highly desirable?
(ie, Detroit, Cincinatti, Louisville, St. Louis, Cleveland)
For Cincinnati: Blue Ash, Sycamore, Montgomery, Indian Hill, Madeira, Wyoming, Anderson.
I agree. The Main Line is not "affordable" outside of a few small pockets, and although it's not quite as expensive as its counterparts in NYC and CT, I wouldn't put it a "tier down" as Geoff said, but I don't expect much from him...
I would place The Main Line and North Shore in a similar category because they are similar in makeup and both arguably the nicest collections of suburbs in the nation, and sometimes sleepers among people who aren't very familiar with suburbs and just guess the usual Greenwich, Hamptons, North Jersey options.
I would give the edge to the Main Line over Northshore due to the several notable institutions and huge old money legacy. I can't think of many other suburban regions that have a history like The Main Line, maybe somewhere outside of Boston or NYC?
(Also, hasn't this thread been done before?)
Which North Shore are you on about btw.. i just realized there were like 3 lol.. . Boston's, Chicago's or LI's?
There really is no part of Beachwood that resembles Shaker imo. Parts of Cleveland Heights, University Heights, and Buckeye blend in quite well, but not Beachwood. The shopping mall is basically just a mall, you'll find the same thing in any major metro area. Nobody would go through Beachwood and feel they are in a unique place. You do feel that in Shaker. The only thing about Shaker that is less than ideal is they really don't have a discernible center. I'm not a huge fan of the Van Aken district, plus it's kinda artificial.
I'll agree to disagree. There are definitely parts of Beachwood that look like parts of Shaker (IE the area I alluded to just over Warrensville Center Road by Van Aken, which is the the psuedo downtown of Shaker). Just like there are parts of Shaker that also resemble parts of the Buckeye-Shaker neighborhood of Cleveland (the link to the home in my last post is a street in Shaker where if you go a couple hundred feet, you are in Cleveland).
As for shopping, Beachwood still is a destination, mainly because of Beachwood Place. In fact, it's probably the only reason somebody from the westside of Cleveland or Akron, would go there just due to shopping because it still has offerings that can't be found anywhere else in the metro/region.
If you had to rank the shopping centers by prestige, it would be, IMO:
1. Beachwood Place
2. Crocker Park
3. Legacy Village
4. Pinecrest
5a. South Park
5B. Summit Mall/Montrose (Akron)
Of those six, one is in Akron (Summit Mall, mid-tier); one is in SW Cleveland (South Park, mid-tier); one is in NW Cleveland (Crocker, upper middle tier)
The other three are all at least upper middle tier and all are in or within 2-3 miles of Shaker/Beachwood.
It makes sense to me. For the most part people who want these type burbs are either from a city and want more space (or better schools), or are other suburbanites who like the burbs but want city amenities that maybe their tract house in a cookie cutter development doesn't offer.
I live in the Dallas/Fort Worth area. While West Plano is upper middle class with lots of shopping, good schools etc., I think most in this area would favor some cities in the north middle area of the Metroplex:
What's great bout Grapevine and Flower Mound is both suburbs border Grapevine Lake. Coppell is midway between Grapevine Lake and Lake Lewisville about 15 minutes to either destination. Colleyville and Southlake are more wealthy than the other cities mentioned but farther from the lakes. New rail line serves Colleyville, Grapevine and skirts Southlake headed to the DFW airport. Coppell to the east is about to be part of a new light rail line to the big airport.
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I mean they do things better than a lot of other suburbs. Hoover, Homewood, Mountain Brook and Vestavia Hills are all within a few miles of Downtown. They also have interesting landscape with the area looking very hilly.
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