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View Poll Results: What city would you prefer to live in and/or visit?
Providence 43 50.00%
Milwaukee 43 50.00%
Voters: 86. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-15-2021, 03:29 PM
 
Location: The ghetto
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I see no difference at all.
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Old 09-15-2021, 07:17 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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I see no difference at all.

Ha! My mistake--these are the two I meant to reference:

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8415...7i16384!8i8192


https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8216...7i16384!8i8192
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Old 09-15-2021, 07:32 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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You can see Chad's made some surface level improvements over the past decade, there is some care for the place by the city...

Back in 2011:

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8417...7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8414...7i13312!8i6656

They sort of remind me of these projects in Boston:
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.2759...7i13312!8i6656


It also improved moderately since 2011:
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.2758...7i13312!8i6656

Both are very "southern" in they're layout to me...compared to most public housing in New England cities. Greater Brook Valley in Worcester too and the old Westbrook Village 'jects in Hartford https://www.google.com/maps/@41.7893...7i13312!8i6656 (these have been abandoned and are being redevloped)
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Old 09-15-2021, 07:36 PM
 
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Honestly, while the crime rate isn't too bad, I was shocked walking through some areas of Providence and seeing the amount of abandoned homes, particularly South of Downtown. I remember going down this street.

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8135...7i16384!8i8192

Here's another big clump of boarded up buildings

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8084...7i16384!8i8192

I think Providence has probably one of the worst looking areas of New England, worse looking compared to the areas around Blue Hill Ave. in Boston. Maybe Hartford has areas that are worse looking? Also, on the discussion of Chelsea, honestly it didn't seem too bad when I went there. I mean, it just looked like a lower-class immigrant community, there's not a lot of abandoned buildings and yeah there are things like visible drug addiction but like you also see that type of thing in Back-Bay but no one considers that ghetto(some people don't like the vibe around Copley square). I guess from my perspective I tend to think that the biggest factor in making area seem undesirable is safety, but especially gun violence. There is some of that in Chelsea but not any worse than Jamaica Plain or East Boston, like there's on average been 2-3 murders a year in that community and for a place with 40,000 people, I don't really consider that bad.
When I clicked on the street view link, I noticed those boarded up houses were cordoned off by a black chain link fence. Then I set the time view to 2007 and the same houses were cordoned off by the same fence. I cruised down to the corner (Pine St.) and there was the same type of fence, cordoning off a cleared vacant lot. There was a an official looking sign sign saying "coming in 2005, duplexes on Pine St." When I dialed back the time view to 2019, the fence was still there but the sign was gone and the lot was totally overgrown--and no townhouses! Wonder what happened, HUD withdrew funding or something? Too bad, I'm sure the city could use more low income housing.
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Old 09-15-2021, 07:42 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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When I clicked on the street view link, I noticed those boarded up houses were cordoned off by a black chain link fence. Then I set the time view to 2007 and the same houses were cordoned off by the same fence. I cruised down to the corner (Pine St.) and there was the same type of fence, cordoning off a cleared vacant lot. There was a an official looking sign sign saying "coming in 2005, duplexes on Pine St." When I dialed back the time view to 2019, the fence was still there but the sign was gone and the lot was totally overgrown--and no townhouses! Wonder what happened, HUD withdrew funding or something? Too bad, I'm sure the city could use more low income housing.
I believe these were some sort of Section 8 or transitional housing units back before the Great Recession and a bunch things fell through like you guessed. But yea, kinda goes to shows people aren't willing to pay the market rate for new things there in that part of town.

My good buddy lives about 200 years away on Parkis Ave and his street has been redeveloped into something nice.

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8091...7i16384!8i8192

Hes originally from a poor part of Boston and works in Boston but cant afford to live there anymore. he commutes on the commuter rail to Boston from Providence for work everyday. He says its fine.
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Old 09-15-2021, 07:56 PM
 
Location: The ghetto
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You can see Chad's made some surface level improvements over the past decade, there is some care for the place by the city...

Back in 2011:

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8417...7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8414...7i13312!8i6656

They sort of remind me of these projects in Boston:
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.2759...7i13312!8i6656


It also improved moderately since 2011:
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.2758...7i13312!8i6656

Both are very "southern" in they're layout to me...compared to most public housing in New England cities. Greater Brook Valley in Worcester too and the old Westbrook Village 'jects in Hartford https://www.google.com/maps/@41.7893...7i13312!8i6656 (these have been abandoned and are being redevloped)

One of the main differences between Chad Brown and the others you mentioned is that Chad Brown is much more dense. Lots of space with the others. At Chad Brown you can very easily get trapped in. You don't want to drive through it - even during the day.
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Old 09-15-2021, 07:59 PM
 
Location: The ghetto
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2007: https://goo.gl/maps/WDFhqdSABMNUTp9V8
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Old 09-15-2021, 08:00 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Portland Street on Providence, redplum explained it before.

It was some form of public/subsidized housing sharingone big entrance.

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8133...7i16384!8i8192

Here in 2011 it looked fully occupied:

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8134...7i13312!8i6656

In GOOD Procvidence News:

A new cafe is moving into a Providence building that has been vacant since the 1990s
Little City Coffee & Kitchen will open in July in what was once a “chronically vacant” area, a sign of the city’s post-pandemic rejuvenation
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Old 09-15-2021, 08:39 PM
 
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Portland Street on Providence, redplum explained it before.

It was some form of public/subsidized housing sharingone big entrance.

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8133...7i16384!8i8192

Here in 2011 it looked fully occupied:

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8134...7i13312!8i6656

The Barbara Jordan II apartments. Foreclosed on in 2017, now supposedly being redeveloped. Was discussed here:



https://www.city-data.com/forum/rhod...abandoned.html
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Old 09-15-2021, 09:11 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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The Barbara Jordan II apartments. Foreclosed on in 2017, now supposedly being redeveloped. Was discussed here:



https://www.city-data.com/forum/rhod...abandoned.html
https://www.rihousing.com/barbarajordan2/


very in depth detail here
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