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DC was widely known as dangerous/murder capital up until the late 2000s.
I'm arguing about perception though.
Do you honestly think the average person would say Minneapolis and Richmond were more dangerous than NYC, LA and Compton during the 90's despite both holding the 'Murder Capital' title in the 90s? Average Joe is going by Hollywood gangster films, East coast- west coast beef, and Gangster Rap- not FBI Statistics.
Same thing 2022. Everyday person would say Chicago over New Orleans, Kansas City or Milwaukee despite having a lower homicide rate than all 3 cities.
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Do you honestly think the average person would say Minneapolis and Richmond were more dangerous than NYC, LA and Compton during the 90's despite both holding the 'Murder Capital' title in the 90s? Average Joe is going by Hollywood gangster films, East coast- west coast beef, and Gangster Rap- not FBI Statistics.
Same thing 2022. Everyday person would say Chicago over New Orleans, Kansas City or Milwaukee despite having a lower homicide rate than all 3 cities.
Well I think the perception of DC in the 90s and early 00s was relatively negative. The mayor was known for smoking crack, much of the area north of downtown/national mall was ghetto, homicides were very high. Plus the whole politics/"swamp" negative perception DC has. I think DC only started having a positive perception during the Obama years.
DC does have one of the best perceptions in the media. The bad neighborhoods are mostly out of sight out of mind. Ytd there's been 30 murders in NW (350k) for a rate of 8.5 slightly less than st paul MN. Even PG county has a higher rate than NW DC. Ne/Se (300k) has 154 with a rate of 51 similar to Baltimore or Memphis. Just a tale of two cities.
If Baltimore were able to just clean up 1 side of the city the murder rate would be similar to DC like when the rate was 32 in 2012.
It's funny how this is exactly what Chicago is crucified for yet with D.C. it's justification for how/why the city can have a great perception in the media. I never hear D.C. is 1/3rd Manhattan 2/3rds Detroit.
When people say Chicago's vast majority of homicides are in the same small pockets of the city year after year there's never any 'out-of-sight, out-of-mind' type of dismissal that lets the city off the hook. It's more like you can't be a true world class city and have those levels of violence being ignored. Yet with D.C. some even believe it has surpassed Chicago's stature. True hypocrisy here at its finest. Not saying this about you in particular, just in general.
Do you honestly think the average person would say Minneapolis and Richmond were more dangerous than NYC, LA and Compton during the 90's despite both holding the 'Murder Capital' title in the 90s? Average Joe is going by Hollywood gangster films, East coast- west coast beef, and Gangster Rap- not FBI Statistics.
Same thing 2022. Everyday person would say Chicago over New Orleans, Kansas City or Milwaukee despite having a lower homicide rate than all 3 cities.
I don't know about Minneapolis ever being close to a higher rate than Compton in the 90s though.
Baltimore is doing it with a smaller population so the rate is even higher.
2015-342 pop 621,849
2016-318 pop 614,664
2017-342 pop 611,648
2018- 309 pop 602,495
2019-348 pop 593,490
2020-335 pop 583,132
2021-338 pop 576, 498
2022-298 pop 576, 864
DC
1988-369 pop 620,000
1989-434pop 604,000
1990-472 pop 606,900
1991-482 pop 598,000
1992-443 pop 589,000
1993-454 pop 578,000
1994-399 pop 570,000
1995-360 pop 554,000
1996-397 pop 543,000
1997-301 pop 529,000
Do you honestly think the average person would say Minneapolis and Richmond were more dangerous than NYC, LA and Compton during the 90's despite both holding the 'Murder Capital' title in the 90s? Average Joe is going by Hollywood gangster films, East coast- west coast beef, and Gangster Rap- not FBI Statistics.
Same thing 2022. Everyday person would say Chicago over New Orleans, Kansas City or Milwaukee despite having a lower homicide rate than all 3 cities.
Yeah perceptions of crime holds much more overall weight for crime perceptions vs the actual data. My town in Ca has an oddly worse perception than the reality of statistics. There is the saying though, that perception is reality. There's a reason why cities like Compton and NYC stood out in the 90's and why Chicago stands out today. It took a collective agreement in society to conclude it's reputation.
2015-342 pop 621,849
2016-318 pop 614,664
2017-342 pop 611,648
2018- 309 pop 602,495
2019-348 pop 593,490
2020-335 pop 583,132
2021-338 pop 576, 498
2022-298 pop 576, 864
DC
1988-369 pop 620,000
1989-434pop 604,000
1990-472 pop 606,900
1991-482 pop 598,000
1992-443 pop 589,000
1993-454 pop 578,000
1994-399 pop 570,000
1995-360 pop 554,000
1996-397 pop 543,000
1997-301 pop 529,000
Pretty wild numbers for DC back in the day. Does this mean that DC had the largest reduction in homicide rate of all major US cities? DC hasn't cracked 200 yet this year and it's possible that it won't, and that's with a population of ~690K these days.
It's still a bad crime rate, but it's a hell of a lot better than it used to be.
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