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View Poll Results: Houston VS Orlando
Houston, TX 56 64.37%
Orlando, FL 31 35.63%
Voters: 87. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-04-2023, 09:00 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Tell me more.

I’m still fairly new here, and my interest and obsession are more on the fine art/antique/European art/architecture side, can you elaborate more on the visual arts community part?

Take Miami’s Art Basel for example, people rave about it and always quote it as the example that Miami is such an alive art city, when I see Art Basel more or less the Coachella of Art where it’s mostly art galleries promoting their art pieces (which are less than the museum pieces in quality.) and holding parties/promotions.-nothing is wrong with that but it’s not my kind of scene. (I admitted I could be an art snob.)

Did you mean by Sawyer Yard and such?

I’ve been living here for just a bit over a year and I barely scraped the surface with all the museums/galleries I’d like to go. I just discovered there’s a Cy Twombly Gallery in Houston, which I didn’t know at all before I moved here.-it made me so excited as I’m only, barely, not even through 1/3 of the MFAH. These along with the de Menils & Rothko Chapel (my friend in D.C who’s a fine art photographer and a curator is re-discovering Houston art scene through me as she too is a major Rothko fan.) already are excellent for me. This and the endless restaurants, we ARE very busy and happy in Houston.

(Ps. Still owe you a list of Taiwanese restaurants in Houston. Sorry I’ve been out of it from traveling and having a flu. I’ll get to it shortly.)
I am mostly talking about scenes like Sawyer Yard. There are other similar 'Yards' in the vicinity but all have the same vibe of non-famous artists promoting their work or socializing with others and patrons.

There are other smallish clusters of galleries in the Houston area, like Upper Kirby, the Heights or EaDo that also offer events that are like group open houses.
You go to these things to hang out with artsy people, not collect museum quality arts. My take on Houston's offering is they felt a little stuffy and commercial, without much of the party vibe that could be found elsewhere. Maybe the problem is individually the clusters are too small and collectively they're too spread out.

Sounds like you're more into more established art as opposed to those made by living artists trying to make a name for themselves so MFAH is more of your scene.
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Old 01-05-2023, 08:50 AM
 
Location: Bergen County, New Jersey
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Houston definitely isn’t good with urban planning but it does have some TOD. Some areas of Midtown, the southern edge of downtown, EaDo, and now second ward are receiving development in areas solely due to the presence of MetroRail. Granted since MetroRail is still relatively new (especially the green and purple lines) it will take some time to materialize more TODs but it’s definitely a work in progress.


Ensemble/HCC station:

2011 - https://maps.app.goo.gl/7dmkEmBrsaYtti8a7?g_st=ic

2022 - https://maps.app.goo.gl/zkp9LSqorRb28mZe6?g_st=ic

McGowen station:

2011 - https://maps.app.goo.gl/GRiRBu1XuTR4tQWd8?g_st=ic

2022 - https://maps.app.goo.gl/2CLHH1BP6NHK191E7?g_st=ic
No you are right, hence why I said Orlando is worse. Houston is making improvements. Orlando leaves much to be desired for there.

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I personally find Houston very cosmopolitan. (definition: including or containing people from different countries. )

Just some anecdotes to share:

We had three handymen: one Greek former engineer; one from Televiv; one from Mexico City. Three pool guys: one Brazilian Hawaiian; one from Pakistan and one is Venezuelan.

In my doctors’ office (Houston Methodist), the brochure listed under each doctor speaking multiple languages, some of which I’ve never heard of.-this I never saw in NYC nor LA, the supposed biggest melting pots in the country.
Yeah I am sure. Houston is a large city with a huge diverse population, so you definitely will hear more languages than other cities.

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Houston is actually as, if not more cosmopolitan than Boston and Chicago because the definition of cosmopolitan is: "including or containing people from many different countries". Given the definition, only NYC, LA, the Bay, and Miami would be more cosmopolitan than Houston.

What I think you mean is urban, urbane, walkable, or dense. Then I would agree. Cosmopolitan is a word that gets lost in translation here.
Fair point, should have defined cosmopolitan.
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Old 01-05-2023, 09:01 AM
 
Location: Houston
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Originally Posted by DaBears02 View Post
Houston definitely isn’t good with urban planning but it does have some TOD. Some areas of Midtown, the southern edge of downtown, EaDo, and now second ward are receiving development in areas solely due to the presence of MetroRail. Granted since MetroRail is still relatively new (especially the green and purple lines) it will take some time to materialize more TODs but it’s definitely a work in progress.


Ensemble/HCC station:

2011 - https://maps.app.goo.gl/7dmkEmBrsaYtti8a7?g_st=ic

2022 - https://maps.app.goo.gl/zkp9LSqorRb28mZe6?g_st=ic

McGowen station:

2011 - https://maps.app.goo.gl/GRiRBu1XuTR4tQWd8?g_st=ic

2022 - https://maps.app.goo.gl/2CLHH1BP6NHK191E7?g_st=ic
Those before and after views are eye-opening! And encouraging!
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Old 01-05-2023, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Houston, Tx.
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Those before and after views are eye-opening! And encouraging!


Major, MAJOR differences!
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Old 01-05-2023, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Bergen County, New Jersey
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Major, MAJOR differences!
You should teach Boston to do this, something they cant get right is TOD. The TOD around Houston looks better than a prewar city with adequate transit! This is great.

The more i learn about Houston the happier I am!
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Old 01-05-2023, 01:24 PM
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Location: Houston, TX/Detroit, MI
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For the record my definition of 'Taiwanese' is not owned and operated by Taiwanese, but serving their regional specialties like oyster pancakes, fermented tofu, sticky rice tamale or gelatinous meat bun. San Dong is only half counts because only their Beef Noodle Soup can be considered Taiwanese. Dumplings and noodles are very common in Chinese restaurants as well.
And you didn't like Tainan Cafe?

That is a very strict definition of that. That can't be good for looking for authentic restaurants in Denver which is easily one of the more difficult big cities in the US for ethnic food.

If places serve Taiwanese dishes but other things as well, that doesn't matter to me. Having spent lots of time in Taiwan, most people aren't eating Oyster Pancakes or Sticky Rice Tamales regularly. They eat a lot of hot pot and a lot of dumplings.
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Old 01-05-2023, 01:52 PM
 
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You should teach Boston to do this, something they cant get right is TOD. The TOD around Houston looks better than a prewar city with adequate transit! This is great.

The more i learn about Houston the happier I am!
I like this railstop best:

2011: Jefferson St
https://maps.app.goo.gl/eVLMk5bBVLQ9nNSK6

2022: Jefferson St
https://maps.app.goo.gl/JtNCxUd7Ca4WmmXE8

That area went from having like 2 residential buildings to over 10
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Old 01-05-2023, 04:01 PM
 
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I like this railstop best:

2011: Jefferson St
https://maps.app.goo.gl/eVLMk5bBVLQ9nNSK6

2022: Jefferson St
https://maps.app.goo.gl/JtNCxUd7Ca4WmmXE8

That area went from having like 2 residential buildings to over 10
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No you are right, hence why I said Orlando is worse. Houston is making improvements. Orlando leaves much to be desired for there.
Not sure how any of the above examples are any different from similar examples in Orlando:

Apr 2011 - Rollins St: https://goo.gl/maps/ytxMF3d7nWLLFUcA9
May 2022 - SunRail @ Rollins St: https://goo.gl/maps/eQxhBdPbfNXowEYcA

Nov 2019 - SunRail @ Orange Ave & Livingston: https://goo.gl/maps/VbpSTfYytbs2oepm8
May 2022 - SunRail @ Orange Ave & Livingston: https://goo.gl/maps/K9c4As5CYj6TL3wH9

Oct 2018 - SunRail @ Orange Ave: https://goo.gl/maps/1dsj3C9qJLyKh3Se8
May 2022 - SunRail @ Orange Ave: https://goo.gl/maps/eYRBWWBXuzAuX7Z16

Feb 2017 - SunRail @ Church/South St: https://goo.gl/maps/Lag2m1hutkJLfNvD9
Aug 2022 - SunRail @ Church/South St: https://goo.gl/maps/uup6nUtpSgP1Nwip6
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Old 01-05-2023, 04:15 PM
 
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Not sure how any of the above examples are any different from similar examples in Orlando:

Apr 2011 - Rollins St: https://goo.gl/maps/ytxMF3d7nWLLFUcA9
May 2022 - SunRail @ Rollins St: https://goo.gl/maps/eQxhBdPbfNXowEYcA

Nov 2019 - SunRail @ Orange Ave & Livingston: https://goo.gl/maps/VbpSTfYytbs2oepm8
May 2022 - SunRail @ Orange Ave & Livingston: https://goo.gl/maps/K9c4As5CYj6TL3wH9

Oct 2018 - SunRail @ Orange Ave: https://goo.gl/maps/1dsj3C9qJLyKh3Se8
May 2022 - SunRail @ Orange Ave: https://goo.gl/maps/eYRBWWBXuzAuX7Z16

Feb 2017 - SunRail @ Church/South St: https://goo.gl/maps/Lag2m1hutkJLfNvD9
Aug 2022 - SunRail @ Church/South St: https://goo.gl/maps/uup6nUtpSgP1Nwip6
I wouldn't want to walk in any of those areas. Doesn't look very pedestrian friendly. Wide intersections without convenient crossings not one of those links look like these developments were made with pedestrians in mind
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Old 01-05-2023, 05:14 PM
 
Location: Houston
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I like this railstop best:

2011: Jefferson St
https://maps.app.goo.gl/eVLMk5bBVLQ9nNSK6

2022: Jefferson St
https://maps.app.goo.gl/JtNCxUd7Ca4WmmXE8

That area went from having like 2 residential buildings to over 10
Whew! For a second I thought the Christian Science reading room was gone! That rail stop is another example of amazing transformation in just 10 years!
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