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View Poll Results: What Cities Could Be Considered Sports Capitals of the US?
Boston 105 59.32%
New York City 77 43.50%
Philadelphia 80 45.20%
Los Angeles 53 29.94%
San Francisco 25 14.12%
Seattle 11 6.21%
Miami 15 8.47%
Denver 16 9.04%
Chicago 71 40.11%
Dallas 40 22.60%
Atlanta 24 13.56%
Las Vegas 11 6.21%
Phoenix 5 2.82%
Houston 14 7.91%
Nashville 8 4.52%
Charlotte 5 2.82%
Indianapolis 14 7.91%
Minneapolis 6 3.39%
Detroit 21 11.86%
Kansas City 10 5.65%
Other City 20 11.30%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 177. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-20-2023, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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Are you counting CFL? Cause otherwise Toronto would be 4.
Oh, good call. My mistake.

Yeah, for Toronto, that includes CFL, which I should've noted.
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Old 11-20-2023, 04:07 PM
 
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Philadelphia
Boston
Detroit


Chicago
NYC
St. Louis
Minneapolis
Cleveland
Atlanta
DC

Dallas
Houston
Miami
KC
SF
LA
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Old 11-20-2023, 05:10 PM
 
Location: Miami (prev. NY, Atlanta, SF, OC and San Diego)
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I think some are shortchanging the NYC metro….besides the big 4 and MLS it hosts the top tennis event (US Open), 1 of the 3 Triple Crown horse racing venues (Belmont), and is home to the league offices of MLB, NFL, NHL (shared with Canada) and NBA.
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Old 11-20-2023, 05:11 PM
 
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Of course, fan support and other minor organizational sports play into this, as well. So, I don't think pure pro sports team count can be the only bit of data used.

Interesting snapshot to view, nonetheless.
I think most are missing a big point and I think you briefly touch on that, and that's fan support. Having a pro team or 4 is fine. But what if the support is poor? I'm going to pick on Phoenix here. The Coyotes have terrible fan support and if it wasn't for Gary Bettman's insistence that it works, the team would have moved a while ago.

I think you can quantify fan support, but its also arbitrary to a degree. It's more than just attendance. If a team has 80k stadium, but fills 60k on average, and another team has a 55k stadium but sells out all the time, many would just look at the 60k number and say there's better fan support. There's other factors that are quantified too like TV ratings and apparel sales. Buffalo thrives there. Buffalo ranks among the highest in local NHL TV ratings despite having a mediocre at best team for a while. Im guessing that would probably surprise many people.

It's more than simply the amount of pro teams a market has.
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Old 11-20-2023, 11:13 PM
 
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Outside of the obvious answers, Miami and Seattle are vastly underrated for sports culture and fan atmosphere. Minneapolis to a lesser extent.

Lmao what. Miami sports are incredibly fairweather. people only care for the heat when they're good. Both the marlins and panthers had good seasons and still had subpar attendance. Too many other things to do in Miami then care about sports.
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Old 11-20-2023, 11:19 PM
 
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If we talking passion for professional sports across the board, the big 3 are easily Boston, Philly, and Chicago. NYC and LA have too many transplants.
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Old 11-20-2023, 11:20 PM
 
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If purely going by the number of major league franchises in each city, here's how each city stacks up in 2023:

Cities with all 5 - NFL, MLB, NBA, NHL, MLS

New York City: 11 teams
Los Angeles: 10 teams
Chicago: 6 teams
San Francisco: 6 teams (soon to be 5, with A's relocating)
Dallas: 5 teams
Washington, DC: 5 teams
Philadelphia: 5 teams
Miami: 5 teams
Boston: 5 teams
Minneapolis: 5 teams
Denver: 5 teams
Toronto: 5 teams

Cities with 4:

Phoenix: 4 teams
Detroit: 4 teams
Houston: 4 teams
Atlanta: 4 teams
Seattle: 4 teams

Cities with 3:

Tampa: 3 teams
Pittsburgh: 3 teams
Cleveland: 3 teams
St Louis: 3 teams
Charlotte: 3 teams
Cincinnati: 3 teams
Kansas City: 3 teams
Nashville: 3 teams
Las Vegas: soon to have 3 teams

Of course, fan support and other minor organizational sports play into this, as well. So, I don't think pure pro sports team count can be the only bit of data used.

Interesting snapshot to view, nonetheless.

Oakland really lost all of its sports teams lmao.


Nashville is like the #1 city for MLB expansion so it will soon have 4 teams.
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Old 11-21-2023, 12:11 AM
 
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This article just out about Las Vegas, is calling it "the new sports capital of the US."


https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/19/busin...sports-economy


Do you think this could be accurate, or which cities can hold that title, or at least be in the top 5--or top 10?

I've added a poll to see what everyone's thoughts are.


Some cities I think could easily be considered for the top 10:

Boston
New York City
Philadelphia
Los Angeles
San Francisco
Seattle
Miami
Denver
Chicago
Dallas
Atlanta
Las Vegas
Phoenix
Houston
Nashville
Charlotte
Indianapolis
Minneapolis
Detroit
Kansas City
Ever heard of Cleveland?

Smallest metro with 3 major professional teams.

Best stadium setup, with all 3 downtown; Progressive Field (baseball/Guardians) is adjacent to Rocket Mortgage Fieldhouse (Cavs)... and .4 miles from Browns stadium... All 3 stadiums are directly served by Rapid Transit, with RMFH (Cavs) having a totally indoor/underground connection. Perfect for winter.

Why isn't Cleveland on your list?
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Old 11-21-2023, 12:23 AM
 
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Originally Posted by jjbradleynyc View Post
If purely going by the number of major league franchises in each city, here's how each city stacks up in 2023:

Cities with all 5 - NFL, MLB, NBA, NHL, MLS

New York City: 11 teams
Los Angeles: 10 teams
Chicago: 6 teams
San Francisco: 6 teams (soon to be 5, with A's relocating)
Dallas: 5 teams
Washington, DC: 5 teams
Philadelphia: 5 teams
Miami: 5 teams
Boston: 5 teams
Minneapolis: 5 teams
Denver: 5 teams
Toronto: 5 teams

Cities with 4:

Phoenix: 4 teams
Detroit: 4 teams
Houston: 4 teams
Atlanta: 4 teams
Seattle: 4 teams

Cities with 3:

Tampa: 3 teams
Pittsburgh: 3 teams
Cleveland: 3 teams
St Louis: 3 teams
Charlotte: 3 teams
Cincinnati: 3 teams
Kansas City: 3 teams
Nashville: 3 teams
Las Vegas: soon to have 3 teams

Of course, fan support and other minor organizational sports play into this, as well. So, I don't think pure pro sports team count can be the only bit of data used.

Interesting snapshot to view, nonetheless.
This is incorrect. Cincy, St. Louis, KC, and Charlotte (among others) only have 2 major pro teams. NOTE: major league soccer, at this point at least, does not count. Only NFL, MLB, NBA, and NHL.
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Old 11-21-2023, 03:00 AM
 
Location: 215
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Lmao what. Miami sports are incredibly fairweather. people only care for the heat when they're good. Both the marlins and panthers had good seasons and still had subpar attendance. Too many other things to do in Miami then care about sports.
I’m not sure if you read OP’s criteria but it’s not limited to fanbases, lol.

Miami is a good host city for sporting events and atmosphere. If it were such a sports wasteland I doubt it would be one of the select cities in the country to have The World Cup in 2026.
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