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BTW, about your Chicago being hilly and Philadelphia being flat...ever been to Philly? I'd say Philadelphia is far hillier than the Chicago area. For the most part, Chicago is tabletop flat while the East Coast has some rolling hills; and the rest of the Northeast has far higher mountains than anything in the Midwest (excluding such areas as the Black Hills, South Dakota).
Not all of Chicagoland is flat, same way not all of greater Philadelphia is flat. And yes, parts of the NE are incredibly hilly, but the Midwest still lies claim to the highest mountains between the Rockies and the Alps.
When I visited Chicago and Minneapolis, i noticed that most people don't jay walk. On the east coast, jay walking is the norm.
I get so close to cars going 30 that I could smack their trunks as they go by. My street heirarchy.....
Buses, Taxis, Police > Bicyclists > Minnehahapolitan > Cars > Hummers
The thing about Mpls. is that people have been known to kindly stop mid-block to let you jaywalk. Don't get that in Boston.
Not all of Chicagoland is flat, same way not all of greater Philadelphia is flat. And yes, parts of the NE are incredibly hilly, but the Midwest still lies claim to the highest mountains between the Rockies and the Alps.
True. But, you defeat your previous point to which I just commented on with that statement.
There are plenty of vibrant, dense cities in "the west": Seattle, Portland, Denver, San Francisco, Oakland, Los Angeles, San Diego. I would bet that Seattle, San Francisco, and Los Angeles are denser than any city outside of Chicago (SF is denser than anything in the Midwest). Density and western cities are not mutually exclusive.
Population Density (West) (Midwest)
San Francisco - 17,323/sq mi
Chicago - 12,649/sq mi
Los Angeles - 8,205/sq mi
Oakland - 7,126.1/sq mi
Seattle - 7,086.2/sq mi
Detroit - 6,856/sq mi
Minneapolis - 6,722/sq mi
Milwaukee - 6,214.7/sq mi
Cleveland - 6,166.5/sq mi
St. Louis - 5,745.8/sq mi
St. Paul - 5,438/sq mi
Portland - 4,288.38/sq mi
Denver - 3,905/sq mi
San Diego - 3,871.5/sq mi
One thing to keep in perspective about Western cities is the steep decline in population density once you leave the immediate central city core. Whereas cities in the Midwest have much more urban neighborhoods and suburbs where the density stays more constant.
I would say this looks more east coast than west coast. (milwaukee's lower east side)(brady st)
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It actually looks a lot like San Francisco. It looks like a great neighborhood.
That's what I thought. There's a little cable car in the picture.
The midwest is the midwest. That said, there are probably more similarities in lifestyles among midwesterners, east coasters, and westerners than there are differences. The stories my DH tells about growing up in Omaha make it sound just like my childhood in suburban Pittsburgh, for example. It also sounds like what I hear from people who grew up here in metro Denver.
The mid-west boring, I've seen miles upon miles of corn fields in Illinois and Iowa. The mid-west helps feed the nation while it may not be breath taking it's anything but boring.
midwest is like the east...all boring , old , and cold
they cant hold a candle to the West
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And yes, parts of the NE are incredibly hilly, but the Midwest still lies claim to the highest mountains between the Rockies and the Alps. 
