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Old 05-04-2009, 04:02 PM
 
Location: Lower East Side, Milwaukee, WI
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Can you provide us some data to back up your argument?
What is there to back up???

Mexico City serves triple duty as Mexico's political/financial/cultural center and is home to 22 million people. The Bay Area only serves as the most important metropolitan area in Northern California and is home to 7 million people.
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Old 05-04-2009, 04:07 PM
 
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I thought we're discussing "influence" here.


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What is there to back up???

Mexico City serves triple duty as Mexico's political/financial/cultural center and is home to 22 million people. The Bay Area only serves as the most important metropolitan area in Northern California and is home to 7 million people.
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Old 05-04-2009, 04:27 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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I thought we're discussing "influence" here.
Mexico City has a huge effect on Mexico and its peoples whether within Mexico or abroad. That surely accounts for something in the US, eh?

Additionally, Mexico City is the media capital for the Spanish-speaking world and the economic hub of Latin America (the Mexican Stock Exchange located in Mexico City is worth over $600 billion). Media and money are pretty big factors when it comes to cultural influence, no?

But whatever, Bay Area is great. Second only to NYC in the US? Not too likely.
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Old 05-04-2009, 05:08 PM
 
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Some of the most influential architects in the 21st century also called Chicago home..Frank Lloyd Wright, Mies Van der Rohe, Louis Sullivan, Daniel Burnham, Helmut Jahn..etc to name a few.

The most powerful and influential celebrity-Oprah Winfrey also resides in Chicago, not to mention the greatest basketball player in NBA history-Michael Jordan.

Is there already a music band named Chicago? Chicago, the musical holds the record for longest-running revival on Broadway, and has been a popular show whether it's playing in New York, Chicago, London, Toronto,Tokyo, Sydney or Seoul...etc. The film Chicago won 6 Oscars in 2003.

Chicago has also been recognized by mayors from around the world as the leader in green urban planning & development. CME is currently the world's largest and most influential futures exchange.

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Chicagoland has produced several prominent political figures such as Donald Rumsfeld, John ********, Richard Daley, Betty Ford, Jesse Jackson, and Barack Obama that have been very influential.

Authors like Ernest Hemingway, Ray Bradbury, and Michael Chrichton are from Chicago.

Famed architect Frank Lloyd Wright lived in Chicago for much of his career.



I guess you've never heard of House Music before.
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Old 05-04-2009, 06:06 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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"Following high school, he moved to Los Angeles to attend Occidental College.[23] ". He was still 18, thats a teenager, and yes, still a kid as you said. He did go to high school in Hawaii also, so they are not mutually exclusive.
You said he went to school as a teen in LA and that's not really accurate.
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Old 05-04-2009, 06:11 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Mexico City has a huge effect on Mexico and its peoples whether within Mexico or abroad. That surely accounts for something in the US, eh?
Obviously. But Mexico City is not more influential in the US than the large US Metros are. That's doesnt make sense.

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Additionally, Mexico City is the media capital for the Spanish-speaking world
You obviously no very little about 'the spanish speaking world'. Mexico City's media influence in the entire spanish speaking world is actually limited to Mexico and perhaps Central America.

South America has its own Media Hubs(trust me, people in Buenos Aires, Caracas, Bogota, Lima and Santiago dont sit around waiting for MXC to tell them what the latest trends are) and Madrid's Media Machine certainly does not take its cues from Mexico City.

And as far as the Spanish Speaking Media in the US, Miami is far, FAR more infleuntial than Mexico City.

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and the economic hub of Latin America (the Mexican Stock Exchange located in Mexico City is worth over $600 billion). Media and money are pretty big factors when it comes to cultural influence, no?
Once again, Mexico City's economic influence is really limited to Mexico and perhaps Central America. Id venture to guess that Miami is more important to the Carribean and Sao Paulo and Buenos Aires are definitely more important to South Americans than Mexico City.

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But whatever, Bay Area is great. Second only to NYC in the US? Not too likely.
Im just waiting for real, substantive proof to the contrary.
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Old 05-04-2009, 06:14 PM
 
Location: roaming gnome
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Additionally, Mexico City is the media capital for the Spanish-speaking world and the economic hub of Latin America (the Mexican Stock Exchange located in Mexico City is worth over $600 billion). Media and money are pretty big factors when it comes to cultural influence, no?

But whatever, Bay Area is great. Second only to NYC in the US? Not too likely.
I thought Miami was...I think it has more latin american HQ's than any other city.
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Old 05-04-2009, 06:50 PM
 
Location: Lower East Side, Milwaukee, WI
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Once again, Mexico City's economic influence is really limited to Mexico and perhaps Central America. Id venture to guess that Miami is more important to the Carribean and Sao Paulo and Buenos Aires are definitely more important to South Americans than Mexico City.
Mexico City - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Mexico City is the most important economic hub in Latin America. The city proper (Federal District) produces 21.8% of the country's gross domestic product. According to a study conducted by PricewaterhouseCoopers, Greater Mexico City (with a population of 18.3 million) had a GDP of $315 billion in 2005 (at purchasing power parity), ranking as the 8th-richest urban agglomeration in the world after the greater areas of Tokyo, New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Paris, London and Osaka/Kobe, and the richest in Latin America.

City Mayors reviews the richest cities in the world in 2005
1. Tokyo, Japan
2. New York, USA
3. Los Angeles, USA
4. Chicago, USA
5. Paris, France
6. London, UK
7. Osaka/Kobe, Japan
8. Mexico City, Mexico
9. Philadelphia, USA
10. Washington, USA
11. Boston, USA
12. Dallas/Fort Worth, USA
13. Buenos Aires, Argentina
14. Hong Kong, China
15. San Francisco/Oakland, USA
16. Atlanta, USA
17. Houston, USA
18. Miami, USA
19. São Paulo, Brazil
20. Seoul, South Korea
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Old 05-04-2009, 06:52 PM
 
Location: southern california
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the capital may be sacramento but most of the decisions made in the state happen in san francisco.
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Old 05-04-2009, 07:00 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Mexico City - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Mexico City is the most important economic hub in Latin America.
Sorry, but this is wrong. Your source is absolutely incorrect. Sao Paulo is far more of an Economic Hub for South America, which is far bigger than just Mexico and Central America.


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City Mayors reviews the richest cities in the world in 2005
1. Tokyo, Japan
2. New York, USA
3. Los Angeles, USA
4. Chicago, USA
5. Paris, France
6. London, UK
7. Osaka/Kobe, Japan
8. Mexico City, Mexico
9. Philadelphia, USA
10. Washington, USA
11. Boston, USA
12. Dallas/Fort Worth, USA
13. Buenos Aires, Argentina
14. Hong Kong, China
15. San Francisco/Oakland, USA
16. Atlanta, USA
17. Houston, USA
18. Miami, USA
19. São Paulo, Brazil
20. Seoul, South Korea
As far as GDP, this is the true scope of US Metro Areas. Let's not kid ourselves.

Combined Statistical Area/ Total Gross Product($150B+)
New York-Newark-Bridgeport, NY-NJ-CT-PA $1.284 Trillion
Los Angeles-Long Beach-Santa Ana, CA $825.3 Billion
Washington-Baltimore-Hagerstown, DC-MD-VA-WV $500.0 Billion
Chicago-Naperville-Michigan City, IL-IN-WI $490.9 Billion
San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland, CA $475.5 Billion
Boston-Worcester-Manchester, MA-RI-NH $383.8 Billion
Houston-Baytown-Huntsville, TX $344.5 Billion
Dallas-Ft Worth, TX $341.5 Billion
Philadelphia-Camden-Vineland, PA-NJ-DE-MD $330.0 Billion
Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Gainesville, GA-AL $262.6 Billion
Miami-Ft Lauderdale-Pompano Beach, FL $248.0 Billion
Detroit-Warren-Flint, MI $233.0 Billion
Seattle-Tacoma-Olympia, WA $217.9 Billion
Phoenix-Mesa-Scottsdale, AZ $179.4 Billion
Minneapolis-St Paul-St Cloud, MN-WI $186.7 Billion
Denver-Aurora-Boulder, CO $162.3 Billion
San Diego-Carlsbad-San Marcos, CA $157.8 Billion

I still cant get over how close DC and SF are to Chicago.
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