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View Poll Results: Bigger Impact on American Pop Culture?
San Francisco Bay Area, California 59 62.11%
chic-land, midwest 36 37.89%
Voters: 95. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-29-2009, 04:10 PM
 
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Chicago hasn't had an impact on the psyche of those outside the US Midwest since the days of Micheal Jordan ended.
lol. Chicago is known for greasy pizza too, it's a fun city though. Most everyone there knows it's not on par with the east/west coast cities, I'm not sure why these threads constantly pop up. The ones from Chicago posting here are usually zealots who want to blast away every midwest stereotype when they aren't realizing their zealotry only brings attention to it.
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Old 06-29-2009, 04:33 PM
 
Location: Omaha
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Chicago hasn't had an impact on the psyche of those outside the US Midwest since the days of Micheal Jordan ended.
Don't forget about the other Michael...
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Old 06-29-2009, 05:04 PM
 
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lol. Chicago is known for greasy pizza too, it's a fun city though. Most everyone there knows it's not on par with the east/west coast cities, I'm not sure why these threads constantly pop up. The ones from Chicago posting here are usually zealots who want to blast away every midwest stereotype when they aren't realizing their zealotry only brings attention to it.
Ironically, LostAngelesNightmare seems to live off baiting people into arguments with their immature and baseless arguments. It goes both ways
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Old 06-29-2009, 05:06 PM
 
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This is pointless if you are talking about CHICAGO. Chicago is diverse and receives immigrants from all around the world. Chicago's O'Hare Int'l Airport has nonstop flights to places all over the world. If you peak into Chicago's diversity, you would see that many ethnic groups and nationalities are well represented. In fact I could make a case that Chicago's population is MORE diverse than SF's.

*2nd largest African American population
*2nd largest Mexican population
*3rd largest Italian population
*Largest Polish population (outside Warsaw)
*2nd largest Greek population
The list goes on and on. Even the Asian populations are well represented. Chicago enjoys cultural prominence like those major cities (immigrant hubs) on the coasts. Your point is irrelevant when Chicago is the subject. I would agree with you if you talked about other midwestern cities, but definitely NOT Chicago.
You probably won't get any type of serious response to this.
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Old 06-29-2009, 06:42 PM
 
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San Francisco has contributed a ton to culture. You are straight tripping. Maybe you don't know but SF is the most bitten off region of the US.
No, it hasn't. Not really. Certainly nowhere near the cultural weight Chicago represents for the United States.

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I thought that was a city called new york?
If bastardized versions of books made into mangled musicals with torturous songs is elite theatre, then yes. New York would represent America best in this regard. If clinging to the same tired musicals from fifty years ago is to represent the pinnacle of American achievement, then yes. I can think of no better city than New York.
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Old 06-29-2009, 07:13 PM
 
Location: Spain
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Originally Posted by Libohove90 View Post
This is pointless if you are talking about CHICAGO. Chicago is diverse and receives immigrants from all around the world. Chicago's O'Hare Int'l Airport has nonstop flights to places all over the world. If you peak into Chicago's diversity, you would see that many ethnic groups and nationalities are well represented. In fact I could make a case that Chicago's population is MORE diverse than SF's.

*2nd largest African American population
*2nd largest Mexican population
*3rd largest Italian population
*Largest Polish population (outside Warsaw)
*2nd largest Greek population
The list goes on and on. Even the Asian populations are well represented. Chicago enjoys cultural prominance like those major cities (immigrant hubs) on the coasts. Your point is irrelevant when Chicago is the subject. I would agree with you if you talked about other midwestern cities, but definitely NOT Chicago.
I think they're comparably diverse.

Chicago = 26% hispanic, 16% white, 37% black, 4% asian, 17% everything else including mixed-race.

San Francisco = 14% hispanic, 36% white, 8% black, 31% asian, 10% everything else including mixed-race.

Both stats are from 2000 and include only the city propers, not sure about the metropolitan areas.

San Francisco city, California - Fact Sheet - American FactFinder

Chicago (city) QuickFacts from the US Census Bureau
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Old 06-29-2009, 07:22 PM
 
Location: THE THRONE aka-New York City
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If bastardized versions of books made into mangled musicals with torturous songs is elite theatre, then yes. New York would represent America best in this regard. If clinging to the same tired musicals from fifty years ago is to represent the pinnacle of American achievement, then yes. I can think of no better city than New York.
You cant be serious. Broadway is the pinnacle of american theatre. Never known of chicago for theatre
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Old 06-29-2009, 07:39 PM
 
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Right. So how do you respond to this list (which only scratches the surface), already posted by Jman650...that's right, you can't.

Janis Joplin
Maya Angelou
Carlos Santana
Jefferson Airplane
Sly and the Family Stone
The Beatnicks
The Hippie movement
Chinese Mafia presence in America
The oldest and largest Chinatown in the US
Bruce Lee
The Grateful Dead
The gay/lesbian rights movement
Craigslist
Rolling Stone Magazine (originally)
Thrasher Magazine
The rave scene
Clint Eastwood
Shirley Temple
Bing Crosby
Metallica
Journey & a ton of big name groups and one hit wonders from the 60s, 70s, 80s & 90s (too many to name here)
The internet & most major dot coms
The Black Panthers
Prison gangs like the Aryan Brotherhood, the Mexican Mafia, the Nuestra Familia & the BGF
A ton of slang (again, too much to list here)
Rappers like 2Pac, Too Short, Mac Dre, Digital Underground, Spice 1 & MC Hammer
R&B singers like En Vogue, Tony Tone Toni/Raphael Saadiq, Goapele & Keyshia Cole
The West Coast Offense in football
Joe DiMaggio
Barry Bonds
Bill Walsh
Lynn Swann
Tom Brady
Joe Montana
Jerry Rice
Ronnie Lott
Steve Young
Willy Mays
Mountain biking
The VCR
George Lucas/Lucasfilm/Star Wars/Indiana Jones
John Madden (and his entire series of video games)
OJ Simpson
Green Day
Creedence Clearwater Revival
Bill Graham & The Fillmore Auditorium
1015 Folsom (one of the top electronic music clubs in the nation)
Alcatraz
Burning Man
shows like Full House, Dirty Jobs & Mythbusters
The Golden Gate Bridge
Cable Cars
San Francisco Rush
Rice-a-roni
Levi Jeans
The Gap/Old Navy/Banana Republic
I'll give it a go, even though San Francisco didn't "invent" the Rave scene, Mountain biking, or the Internet, LOL.

Things that either started in Chicago or have their home there:

Hillary Clinton
Jesse Jackson
Barack Obama, the first African-American President
Donald Rumsfeld
Mike Ditka
Da Bears
The Untouchables
Kanye West
Fall Out Boy
Smashing Pumpkins
Bo Diddly
Common
Roger Ebert
Gene Siskel
Playboy
Boeing
Sears
Walgreens
Married with Children
Motorola
Allstate
Kraft
Sara Lee
Space Invaders
NBA Jam
Office Max
Wrigley
ER
Tootsie Roll
The Museum of Science and Industry
The Art Institute of Chicago
The Field Museum of Natural History
Vince Vaughn
John Cusack
Disturbed
R Kelly
Muddy Waters
McDonalds
Molecular Gastronomy fine cuisine
The Skyscraper
Pac-Man
Galaga
NFL Blitz
The Cell phone
The Zipper
Chicago-style Pizza
Chicago-style Hot Dog
Jim Belushi
John Belushi
Family Matters
Bill Murray
Tom Berenger
House music
Mr. T
Sears Tower (tallest building in North America)
O'Hare Airport (busiest in America still I think)
Oprah
Harold Raimis
Bob Newhart
The Ferris Wheel
Open Heart Surgery
Home Alone
Bernie Mac
Tron
Malted Milkshakes
Charlton Heston
Softball
Hugh Hefner
Wayne's World
Lollapalooza
Mortal Kombat
Harrison Ford
Steve Carell
The Vacuum cleaner
John Dillinger
The Blues Brothers
Al Capone
The Dishwasher
The Dark Knight
Ferris Buhlers Day Off
The movie and musical: Chicago
The World's Largest Public Library
The Oreo cookie
Roller Skates
Cracker Jacks
The Twinkie
Michael Jordan
Pinball
Spray paint
The World's Fair, Columbian Exposition

I'm sure there is a bigger list but whatever, I'm tired.... the chest thumping of this subforum is getting old. I'm not saying Chicago is > than SF in cultural influence, though it just might be, but at the very least it is no slouch. Every day of your life is likely impacted by something from there.

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Old 06-29-2009, 09:08 PM
 
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I'll give it a go, even though San Francisco didn't "invent" the Rave scene, Mountain biking, or the Internet, LOL.

Things that either started in Chicago or have their home there:

Hillary Clinton
Jesse Jackson
Barack Obama, the first African-American President
Donald Rumsfeld
Mike Ditka
Da Bears
The Untouchables
Kanye West
Fall Out Boy
Smashing Pumpkins
Bo Diddly
Common
Roger Ebert
Gene Siskel
Playboy
Boeing
Sears
Walgreens
Married with Children
Motorola
Allstate
Kraft
Sara Lee
Space Invaders
NBA Jam
Office Max
Wrigley
ER
Tootsie Roll
The Museum of Science and Industry
The Art Institute of Chicago
The Field Museum of Natural History
Vince Vaughn
John Cusack
Disturbed
R Kelly
Muddy Waters
McDonalds
Molecular Gastronomy fine cuisine
The Skyscraper
Pac-Man
Galaga
NFL Blitz
The Cell phone
The Zipper
Chicago-style Pizza
Chicago-style Hot Dog
Jim Belushi
John Belushi
Family Matters
Bill Murray
Tom Berenger
House music
Mr. T
Sears Tower (tallest building in North America)
O'Hare Airport (busiest in America still I think)
Oprah
Harold Raimis
Bob Newhart
The Ferris Wheel
Open Heart Surgery
Home Alone
Bernie Mac
Tron
Malted Milkshakes
Charlton Heston
Softball
Hugh Hefner
Wayne's World
Lollapalooza
Mortal Kombat
Harrison Ford
Steve Carell
The Vacuum cleaner
John Dillinger
The Blues Brothers
Al Capone
The Dishwasher
The Dark Knight
Ferris Buhlers Day Off
The movie and musical: Chicago
The World's Largest Public Library
The Oreo cookie
Roller Skates
Cracker Jacks
The Twinkie
Michael Jordan
Pinball
Spray paint
The World's Fair, Columbian Exposition

I'm sure there is a bigger list but whatever, I'm tired.... the chest thumping of this subforum is getting old. I'm not saying Chicago is > than SF in cultural influence, though it just might be, but at the very least it is no slouch. Every day of your life is likely impacted by something from there.
yoyobubba-- good list. To add one notable omission-- Chicago (errr, Berwyn) invented the car popsicle. LOL at the inclusion of Tom Berenger.

But don't forget, San Francisco invented the Pacific Ocean. Tough to beat that one.
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Old 06-29-2009, 09:31 PM
 
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Any movie based in Chicago still came out of California. Not sure why that's hard to understand, yet for some it is. "The Breakfast Club" may have been based in Chicago, but the idea was still invented in California. The midwest simply can't compete.
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