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Any movie based in Chicago still came out of California. Not sure why that's hard to understand, yet for some it is. "The Breakfast Club" may have been based in Chicago, but the idea was still invented in California. The midwest simply can't compete.
I don't know if you've ever heard of John Hughes, but he is responsible for many, many great movies that take place in Chicago. John Hughes grew up in Chicago, and his most famous movies werefilmed in Chicago. Maybe the filming crews were from California, but the ideas for these movies were definitely not invented in California, as you stated. They were written by John Hughes, who is from Chicago. Some of his most famous Chicago movies include:
Ferris Bueller's Day Off (my favorite)
The Breakfast Club
Pretty In Pink
Sixteen Candles
Home Alone
Uncle Buck
Planes, Trains, and Automobiles
There were more. You are free to look them up for yourself. Also, what on earth does this have to do with San Francisco?
Any movie based in Chicago still came out of California. Not sure why that's hard to understand, yet for some it is. "The Breakfast Club" may have been based in Chicago, but the idea was still invented in California. The midwest simply can't compete.
So, extending your logic to the base level, any movie based on a book, idea, notion, etc. would be "invented" where the "book/screenplay" was written, right? The Breakfast Club screenplay was written by John Hughes, a Chicagoan, in Chicago. So, by simple extension, The Breakfast Club was invented in Chicago, right?
You cant be serious. Broadway is the pinnacle of american theatre. Never known of chicago for theatre
No, New York is not the "pinnacle" of theatre and Broadway is a revolting mockery of talent.
Anyone involved in theatre would know this. Lastly, anyone involved in theatre would recognize Chicago for what it is. Your ignorance only tells me you've rarely been to theatre...
... Unless it was to see Wicked, that sterling example of taste, talent and production "Broadway style".
*2nd largest African American population
*2nd largest Mexican population
*3rd largest Italian population
*Largest Polish population (outside Warsaw)
*2nd largest Greek population
The list goes on and on. Even the Asian populations are well represented
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You probably won't get any type of serious response to this.
Well, since this is a comparison between ChicagoLAND and the SF Bay Area, here's some race/ethnicity/ancestry stats for both CSA's:
2006 estimates:
Chicagoland (9,726,428)
black: 1,785,861
hispanic of any race: 1,840,231
hispanic groups exceeding 65,000 people:
-Mexican: 1,445,352
-Puerto Rican: 173,799
Asian alone: 493,691
Asian mixed: n/a (under 65,000 people)
Asian Groups exceeding 65,000 people:
-Indian alone: 150,595
-Chinese alone: 94,118
-Filipino alone: 111,296
American Indian/Alaska Native: n/a (under 65,000 people)
Two or more races: 156,007
Some other race: 1,090,389
Bay Area (7,226,651)
black: 538,620
hispanic of any race: 1,611,077
hispanic groups exceeding 65,000 people:
-Mexican: 1,226,472
-Central American: 160,635
Asian alone: 1,522,771
Asian mixed: 121,451
Asian Groups exceeding 65,000 people:
-Indian alone: 215,050
-Chinese alone:536,748
-Filipino alone: 356,378
-Vietnamese alone: 166,915
-Japanese alone: 77,952
-Korean alone: 75,839
American Indian/Alaska Native: 97,246
Two or more races: 256,289
Some other race: 763,784
As you can see, both cities are very diverse...but anyone who says Chicago is MORE diverse than the Bay Area needs to check their facts.
You can figure out the percentages yourself, but it's obvious looking at hte numbers that the Bay Area beats Chicago on everything pretty much, except for black population, greek population, and some of the european ancestry, especially Polish. SF also has some significant european ancestry without much presence in Chicago too though, such as Portuguese.
As far as the mexican population, Chicagoland may have the second largest by raw numbers, but percentage-wise plenty of places beat it, including the Bay Area (and we come pretty close to Chicago in raw numbers as well).
Any movie based in Chicago still came out of California. Not sure why that's hard to understand, yet for some it is. "The Breakfast Club" may have been based in Chicago, but the idea was still invented in California. The midwest simply can't compete.
I doubt people watch Ferris Buhler's Day Off and then think of San Francisco, California. You just can't win with some people on this forum.
Well, since this is a comparison between ChicagoLAND and the SF Bay Area, here's some race/ethnicity/ancestry stats for both CSA's:
2006 estimates:
Chicagoland (9,726,428)
black: 1,785,861
hispanic of any race: 1,840,231
hispanic groups exceeding 65,000 people:
-Mexican: 1,445,352
-Puerto Rican: 173,799
Asian alone: 493,691
Asian mixed: n/a (under 65,000 people)
Asian Groups exceeding 65,000 people:
-Indian alone: 150,595
-Chinese alone: 94,118
-Filipino alone: 111,296
American Indian/Alaska Native: n/a (under 65,000 people)
Two or more races: 156,007
Some other race: 1,090,389
Bay Area (7,226,651)
black: 538,620
hispanic of any race: 1,611,077
hispanic groups exceeding 65,000 people:
-Mexican: 1,226,472
-Central American: 160,635
Asian alone: 1,522,771
Asian mixed: 121,451
Asian Groups exceeding 65,000 people:
-Indian alone: 215,050
-Chinese alone:536,748
-Filipino alone: 356,378
-Vietnamese alone: 166,915
-Japanese alone: 77,952
-Korean alone: 75,839
American Indian/Alaska Native: 97,246
Two or more races: 256,289
Some other race: 763,784
As you can see, both cities are very diverse...but anyone who says Chicago is MORE diverse than the Bay Area needs to check their facts.
You can figure out the percentages yourself, but it's obvious looking at hte numbers that the Bay Area beats Chicago on everything pretty much, except for black population, greek population, and some of the european ancestry, especially Polish. SF also has some significant european ancestry without much presence in Chicago too though, such as Portuguese.
As far as the mexican population, Chicagoland may have the second largest by raw numbers, but percentage-wise plenty of places beat it, including the Bay Area (and we come pretty close to Chicago in raw numbers as well).
Good numbers. I'm not sure how you look at them though and conclude that the Bay Area is more diverse when the Chicago numbers have larger raw numbers and look more evenly distributed among races. I notice when Bay Area boosters say it is more diverse they are really talking about having a large East Asian population that skews all the "foreign born" numbers, as if they are somehow better than African Americans or other races who were born in America and are somehow just vanilla.
Besides, I'm not sure we should be making a versus argument based on how evenly distributed various races are. Most of the cleanest, most wonderful, exciting cities in the world have mostly one race/culture such as Tokyo, Mumbai, heck when I was living in London I pretty much only saw white people, but I never thought it made the city any less great. In my opinion touting diversity is almost in a sense slightly racist because it portends that having a different race of people living there would make things somehow better. I notice diversity is really only touted by white Americans who are trying to be cool in a way and aren't quite comfortable enough with their own culture.
On point though, both above cities look incredibly "diverse" to the point it's kind of moot to argue about it though.
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Good numbers. I'm not sure how you look at them though and conclude that the Bay Area is more diverse when the Chicago numbers have larger raw numbers and look more evenly distributed among races. I notice when Bay Area boosters say it is more diverse they are really talking about having a large East Asian population that skews all the "foreign born" numbers, as if they are somehow better than African Americans or other races who were born in America and are somehow just vanilla.
Besides, I'm not sure we should be making a versus argument based on how evenly distributed various races are. Most of the cleanest, most wonderful, exciting cities in the world have mostly one race/culture such as Tokyo, Mumbai, heck when I was living in London I pretty much only saw white people, but I never thought it made the city any less great. In my opinion touting diversity is almost in a sense slightly racist because it portends that having a different race of people living there would make things somehow better. I notice diversity is really only touted by white Americans who are trying to be cool in a way and aren't quite comfortable enough with their own culture.
On point though, both above cities look incredibly "diverse" to the point it's kind of moot to argue about it though.
You have way more blacks...SF has way more asians...whats so unevenly distributed?
I'll give it a go, even though San Francisco didn't "invent" the Rave scene, Mountain biking, or the Internet, LOL.
Things that either started in Chicago or have their home there:
Hillary Clinton
Jesse Jackson
Barack Obama, the first African-American President
Donald Rumsfeld
Mike Ditka
Da Bears
The Untouchables
Kanye West
Fall Out Boy
Smashing Pumpkins
Bo Diddly
Common
Roger Ebert
Gene Siskel
Playboy
Boeing
Sears
Walgreens
Married with Children
Motorola
Allstate
Kraft
Sara Lee
Space Invaders
NBA Jam
Office Max
Wrigley
ER
Tootsie Roll
The Museum of Science and Industry
The Art Institute of Chicago
The Field Museum of Natural History
Vince Vaughn
John Cusack
Disturbed
R Kelly
Muddy Waters
McDonalds
Molecular Gastronomy fine cuisine
The Skyscraper
Pac-Man
Galaga
NFL Blitz
The Cell phone
The Zipper
Chicago-style Pizza
Chicago-style Hot Dog
Jim Belushi
John Belushi
Family Matters
Bill Murray
Tom Berenger
House music
Mr. T
Sears Tower (tallest building in North America)
O'Hare Airport (busiest in America still I think)
Oprah
Harold Raimis
Bob Newhart
The Ferris Wheel
Open Heart Surgery
Home Alone
Bernie Mac
Tron
Malted Milkshakes
Charlton Heston
Softball
Hugh Hefner
Wayne's World
Lollapalooza
Mortal Kombat
Harrison Ford
Steve Carell
The Vacuum cleaner
John Dillinger
The Blues Brothers
Al Capone
The Dishwasher
The Dark Knight
Ferris Buhlers Day Off
The movie and musical: Chicago
The World's Largest Public Library
The Oreo cookie
Roller Skates
Cracker Jacks
The Twinkie
Michael Jordan
Pinball
Spray paint
The World's Fair, Columbian Exposition
I'm sure there is a bigger list but whatever, I'm tired.... the chest thumping of this subforum is getting old. I'm not saying Chicago is > than SF in cultural influence, though it just might be, but at the very least it is no slouch. Every day of your life is likely impacted by something from there.
Mountain Biking indeed did start in SF, well just north on Mt. Tamalpais in Marin County thus the brand of mountain bikes called Marin. And the rave scene may not have started in SF, but it SF is the rave capital of the US.
Good numbers. I'm not sure how you look at them though and conclude that the Bay Area is more diverse when the Chicago numbers have larger raw numbers and look more evenly distributed among races. I notice when Bay Area boosters say it is more diverse they are really talking about having a large East Asian population that skews all the "foreign born" numbers, as if they are somehow better than African Americans or other races who were born in America and are somehow just vanilla.
Besides, I'm not sure we should be making a versus argument based on how evenly distributed various races are. Most of the cleanest, most wonderful, exciting cities in the world have mostly one race/culture such as Tokyo, Mumbai, heck when I was living in London I pretty much only saw white people, but I never thought it made the city any less great. In my opinion touting diversity is almost in a sense slightly racist because it portends that having a different race of people living there would make things somehow better. I notice diversity is really only touted by white Americans who are trying to be cool in a way and aren't quite comfortable enough with their own culture.
On point though, both above cities look incredibly "diverse" to the point it's kind of moot to argue about it though.
I never said asians were better than other races...or that any race was better than another race. I'm not sure where you got that from. What i did was look at the numbers, in which it's obvious that the Bay Area has a larger percentage of minorities, especially of asian decent. Our latino population also makes up a larger percentage of our population.
The Bay has a higher percentage of hispanic people which is also nearly the same size in numbers, despite the Bay being 2 million people smaller, and the bay has a much larger number and higher percentage of asian people.
We have more people who are foreign born, and more people speaking foreign languages at home.
That's why i say the Bay is more diverse.
We do have less black people, and less large groups of european ancestry or large groups of european immigrants, such as Polish..but all things considered, i would say the Bay edges Chicago out in the diversity department (does Chicagoland have the largest Afghan population in the US? Largest Filipino population? Largest Tongan population outside of Tonga? A significant Samoan population? Significant Vietnamese, Japanese and Salvadoran and Nicaraguan populations, etc, etc? The Bay Area does). I don't know why you're arguing with me here...it's all laid out in my previous post.
As far as whether diversity is "great" or not, I'll say that one: I think it IS great.
and two: Both cities ARE very diverse. I was responding to someone else who seemed pretty sure that Chicago is way more diverse than SF, and challenged people to prove him wrong...which i did.
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