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I just visited VA Beach and LOVED it. The people were so friendly, very southern, and there are real palm trees growing down there (8'+high). I can't believe that I drove 4 hours south and its a totally different culture, attitude and climate than the rush rush, where do you work, pushy DC Metro area.
Virginia minus the colonial atmosphere and minus the Atlantic = Ohio.
They don't sit in the same region and their cultures are different, but they're both pretty big, middle-American states, with several mid-size urban areas, and a country side to them that is often mistaken as being southern.
Virginia minus the colonial atmosphere and minus the Atlantic = Ohio.
They don't sit in the same region and their cultures are different, but they're both pretty big, middle-American states, with several mid-size urban areas, and a country side to them that is often mistaken as being southern.
Well, Virginia's "country side" isn't "mistaken" as being Southern; it is Southern (along with the urban areas, sans NoVA).
Virginia minus the colonial atmosphere and minus the Atlantic = Ohio.
Wow, not seeing this at all. In fact way off base by a wide margin.
A much better comparasion is PENNSYLVANIA minus the colonial atmosphere and minus the higher mountains = OHIO. Both states border Lake Erie, have Appalachian hills and small mountains, and have numerous smaller cities scattered around the state, many of them rustbelt. They are even the same latitude north.
Wow, not seeing this at all. In fact way off base by a wide margin.
A much better comparasion is PENNSYLVANIA minus the colonial atmosphere and minus the higher mountains = OHIO. Both states border Lake Erie, have Appalachian hills and small mountains, and have numerous smaller cities scattered around the state, many of them rustbelt. They are even the same latitude north.
It seems that everyone else is directly comparing states that are obvious because they're right next to each other. That's not what I'm doing.
Both Virginia and Ohio are so neutral to me that they seem to be the epitome of the classic American setting. Very historic.
Their metros have large black communities with the rest of the population being pretty much white. Amongst other things
Why the insults? I didn't say Maryland and Virginia have nothing in common. I simply said that Virginia has much more in common with North Carolina than it does with Maryland, Pennsylvania, Kentucky, or any other state for that matter. If you look through the rest of the thread most people hold the same opinion, but I guess they can't read maps either?
I also didn't say that VA didn't get any snow. For the record Norfolk has a mean annual snowfall of 7.8in, and Richmond has an annual snowfall of 13.8in. Baltimore's annual snowfall is 20.8in (NOAA data). btw could you post a link to a map showing the Shenandoah Valley extending into PA? Thanks.
No insult intended, I was just in a pissed off mood for something unrelated to city-data. I also took your post as saying that MD and VA have little to nothing in common. Anybody can read a map i know. To make my idea somewhat clearer, above I-64 is somewhat similar to MD for reasons I already stated and below 64 very similar to NC. A fact I have brought up on other threads. DC actually has a wide influence over the state to the I-64 area, where i live in the Shen valley we actually get DC news channels on our cable line-up. C-ville does or did when I lived there. To someone living on the other side of the river, I can see how VA seems so far away. I just don't like being belittled by so called progressive people when they don't really know the situation from a different perspective. There are educated people all over this state just as with MD or NC, I don't know how the percentages even out between the three, but I'm sure they are close.
I just visited VA Beach and LOVED it. The people were so friendly, very southern, and there are real palm trees growing down there (8'+high). I can't believe that I drove 4 hours south and its a totally different culture, attitude and climate than the rush rush, where do you work, pushy DC Metro area.
Those hotels must have planted some good trees! I can't say that I've ever seen a natural wild palm tree until South Carolina. I've even been all over the OBX from Hatteras to Lookout and can say the same thing. I have heard of people planting certain species as far north as NJ and NY though, so I know they can live.
Yeah there's a constant effort to breed hardier palms that can withstand colder temperatures. When I was a kid, any effort to plant a palm tree in Va Beach would've been met with failure. Today, palms have been bred to withstand the cold VA winters better. The first time I saw a palm tree in Va Beach was sometime in the mid 1990s. Now there are lots of them. These are non-native and are planted at hotels and IHOPs in Va Beach, Ocean City MD, etc. Soon we'll see hardy palms in front of bed and breakfast inns in Maine.
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