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Old 09-10-2009, 05:57 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I'll admit that I never gave this topic serious thought until I was an adult, but even when I was younger I never looked at Virginia as "down South". It was always the "East Coast". Not the Northeast, but not the south either.

Looking at it from a musical standpoint, people like Timbaland & Magoo, Missy, Clipse, Pharrell, Sebastian...tell me that these are southern rappers . And Chris Brown is from VA, too. I know that boy think he from the south but he isn't.
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Old 09-10-2009, 06:15 PM
 
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Honestly, from an outsider's perspective, I'd say more people think of VA as the south. Texas is Texas.


Think about it. Conceptions of "old VA" in popular culture, movies, etc: antebellum mansions, cotton, Thomas Jefferson.

Old Texas: Cowboy culture and the Alamo
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Old 09-10-2009, 06:19 PM
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Location: Closer than you think!
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I'll admit that I never gave this topic serious thought until I was an adult, but even when I was younger I never looked at Virginia as "down South". It was always the "East Coast". Not the Northeast, but not the south either.

Looking at it from a musical standpoint, people like Timbaland & Magoo, Missy, Clipse, Pharrell, Sebastian...tell me that these are southern rappers . And Chris Brown is from VA, too. I know that boy think he from the south but he isn't.

LOL....Virginia is the south, its no way to hide it. Virginia has much more in common with NC and SC than NY and NJ. Apparently you must be from NOVA and never went south of Fredericksburg because if VA isn't the south, well what states would you consider southern?
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Old 09-10-2009, 07:13 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach/Norfolk.
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Well IMO Hampton Roads doesn't feel TOO southern. It has both northern and southern characteristcs. Culture wise, rappers from HR like Pharell, Missy, Timbaland, they aren't southern like ATL rappers, people here can act both northern and southern. In Richmond it's pretty much all southern. Norfolk and Virginia Beach are definately southern cities, but they have many northern influences..
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Old 09-10-2009, 07:16 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Honestly, from an outsider's perspective, I'd say more people think of VA as the south. Texas is Texas.


Think about it. Conceptions of "old VA" in popular culture, movies, etc: antebellum mansions, cotton, Thomas Jefferson.

Old Texas: Cowboy culture and the Alamo
The Alamo is just one aspect of a very large state. And why do people keep acting like cowboys aren't in the South? Texas just took the cowboy culture to another level. Besides, the average Texan has never even been on a horse or visited a ranch. We don't walk around saying "yeehaw" or "howdy". Most Texans that live east of I-35 carry on much like the average Georgian does.

At the end of the day, yes Texas is Texas. We have a state identity that we share, but we also share in our respective regions. Tyler, TX has more in common with Columbus, GA than it does with El Paso, TX.
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Old 09-10-2009, 07:54 PM
 
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The Alamo is just one aspect of a very large state. And why do people keep acting like cowboys aren't in the South? Texas just took the cowboy culture to another level. Besides, the average Texan has never even been on a horse or visited a ranch. We don't walk around saying "yeehaw" or "howdy". Most Texans that live east of I-35 carry on much like the average Georgian does.

At the end of the day, yes Texas is Texas. We have a state identity that we share, but we also share in our respective regions. Tyler, TX has more in common with Columbus, GA than it does with El Paso, TX.

Of course not. But that's the generalized perception of old-school Texas. People who actually believe that are idiots of course,
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Old 09-10-2009, 09:17 PM
 
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I'll admit that I never gave this topic serious thought until I was an adult, but even when I was younger I never looked at Virginia as "down South". It was always the "East Coast". Not the Northeast, but not the south either.

Looking at it from a musical standpoint, people like Timbaland & Magoo, Missy, Clipse, Pharrell, Sebastian...tell me that these are southern rappers . And Chris Brown is from VA, too. I know that boy think he from the south but he isn't.
VA has southern music outside of 757 which is where timbaland, magoo, pharrell, and clipse are from. Check out Redrum or "Rum"..the newest rapper signed with DJ Khaled and Def Jam South from Richmond VA. He is very popular in the Central/southside VA area right now. I'd say most rappers in the Richmond area sound southern and most AA's have a drawl or atleast a southern lite accent. Here are some video's of Rum. VA's hiphop scene is a mixture just like North Carolina of eastcoast and south. You have some eastcoast sounding rappers, and some southern sounding people. NC has Little Brother, J-Cole and other lyrical rappers on one end, and then Petey Pablo and more of a tradional southern sound on the other end.

Rum in the studio with DJ Khaled and we the best

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPK1Qp02xr4

Here is a new song by Rum feat Yo Gotti from Memphis

YouTube - Red Rum Ft Yo Gotti - Get It In


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o71tSZKlK6A&feature=related

Here is an interview with Rum and Ace Hood

YouTube - Russ Bus 2009 - TT Torrez Interviews Ace Hood & Red Rum on iPower 92.1

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Old 09-10-2009, 09:21 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach/Norfolk.
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Yeah I heard of him.. Trey Songz doesn't sound southern either.

It's almost like the 757 has it's own sound.
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Old 09-10-2009, 09:37 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach/Norfolk.
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The problem comparing Virginia to oher states is that no two metros in the state are similar.. NoVa has the D.C. influence with rappers like Wale and the DMV. Richmond has people like Skillz and Rum.. Hampton Roads has people like Pharell & The Neptunes, Missy Elliot, Timbaland & Magoo, Fam- Lay, Clipse, etc. No two are alike
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Old 09-10-2009, 09:38 PM
 
Location: metro ATL
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Yeah I heard of him.. Trey Songz doesn't sound southern either.

It's almost like the 757 has it's own sound.
When it comes to R&B, I'm not sure exactly how "Southern" sounds. Do Fantasia, Angie Stone, or Ruben Studdard sound Southern?
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