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View Poll Results: London vs San Francisco
London 39 62.90%
San Francisco 23 37.10%
Voters: 62. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-26-2009, 03:45 PM
IT6
 
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Originally Posted by Rhymes with Best Coast View Post
Nice link! Facts are a powerful thing. Some people should try using them.

When you add international travel for SF with SJ (2,270,000 and 430,000) 2,700,000, the Bay Area actually beats LA (2,652,000).

Vegas is close at 1,720,000.
No. When you add Anaheim in with LA then Los Angeles wins.

Nice try buddy.

 
Old 09-26-2009, 03:55 PM
 
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No. When you add Anaheim in with LA then Los Angeles wins.

Nice try buddy.
Whatever, the numbers are close enough.

The fact is that you have been lying you a** off regarding international travel going to SF. SF is on par with LA, a 1st tier alpha city.

Why don't you address the fact that you lied or were not smart enough to count the # of billionaires from a simple list that you provided earlier?

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Old 09-26-2009, 04:08 PM
IT6
 
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Whatever, the numbers are close enough.

The fact is that you have been lying you a** off regarding international travel going to SF. SF is on par with LA, a 1st tier alpha city.
LOL. Alpha? Not according to the experts and the statistics:

CGI Foreign Policy:

Oh and in addition to the overall rankings, read slowly: SAN FRANCISCO CULTURAL EXPERIENCE: RANK 23. LONDON CULTURAL EXPERIENCE RANK: 1. There goes the most SF being most "cultured" argument!


GaWC Ranking:



A. ALPHA WORLD CITIES (full service world cities)

+ London, New York, Paris, Tokyo

- Chicago, Frankfurt, Hong Kong, Los Angeles, Milan, Singapore

B. BETA WORLD CITIES (major world cities)

9: San Francisco, Sydney, Toronto, Zurich

8: Brussels, Madrid, Mexico City, Sao Paulo

7: Moscow, Seoul

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Why don't you address the fact that you lied or were not smart enough to count the # of billionaires from a simple list earlier?
Go count. London has more billionaires than San Francisco and the London "Metro" has more billionaires than Bay Area. Maybe you should (1) Go look up which regions make up the "London Metro" and then (2) then count then (3) report back to be with your findings instead of wasting my time?

Just a suggestion!
 
Old 09-26-2009, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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LOL.

CGI Foreign Policy:



GaWC Ranking:



A. ALPHA WORLD CITIES (full service world cities)

+ London, New York, Paris, Tokyo

- Chicago, Frankfurt, Hong Kong, Los Angeles, Milan, Singapore

B. BETA WORLD CITIES (major world cities)

9: San Francisco, Sydney, Toronto, Zurich

8: Brussels, Madrid, Mexico City, Sao Paulo

7: Moscow, Seoul
This is a list of office locations of certain financial services companies that is often misinterpreted by misguided folks--sorry.

SF is not a satellite office kind of place-The Bay Area is a HQ kind of place. LOL

Ya, know the people who made this ^ranking also made this one...

San Francisco is among the most influential cities in the world. Sure London is higher, but I'll take being tied for 3rd. LOL

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THE WORLD'S MOST WELL ROUNDED CITIES by GaWC released in 2004

Five levels of global city are identified. First, and clearly above all others, there are London and New York. All previous research has highlighted the dominance of these two
cities in the world city hierarchy (Taylor 2004a) and they emerge here as the most important 'all-round' global contributors. They are followed by three cities that make smaller all-round contribution and with particular cultural strengths: Los Angeles, Paris and San Francisco. Finally, among 'all-rounders' there are seven incipient world cities identified in Table 11. In the second category of global niche cities, the three leading Pacific Asian cities are critical economic nodes in the world city network and there are also three critical nodes that are non-economic: Brussels, Geneva and Washington, DC. Thus a total of 18 cities are deemed to be global, actual or incipient.

The remaining world cities encompass articulator and niche cities. The former are focussed upon subnets and there are 13 distributed between the three non-economic spheres. Classic examples are Vienna at the centre of a UN agency subnet and Nairobi at the centre of a NGO subnet. There are 21niche world cities identified of which seven have important concentrations of economic activities and 14 concentrations of non-economic activities. Frankfurt is typical of the first group with its concentration of banks while Manila is typical of the second group with its concentration of NGOs.

These two sets of cities represent the upper echelons of the hierarchical tendencies in world city networks. To reiterate a point made in the introduction, they do not encompass all globalization processes, all cities

GLOBAL as so involved, but they are the key locales that network formation agents are using in their everyday activities that are creating world city networks. CITIES

Well rounded global
Very large contribution: London and New York Smaller contribution and with cultural bias: Los Angeles, Paris and San Francisco

ii Incipient global cities: Amsterdam, Boston, Chicago, Madrid, Milan, Moscow, Toronto

Global niche cities - specialised global contributions

i Economic: Hong Kong, Singapore, and Tokyo

ii Political and social: Brussels, Geneva, and Washington

WORLD CITIES

Subnet articulator cities

i Cultural:
Berlin, Copenhagen, Melbourne, Munich, Oslo, Rome, Stockholm Political: Bangkok, Beijing, Vienna

ii Social: Manila, Nairobi, Ottawa

Worldwide leading cities

i Primarily economic global contributions:
Frankfurt, Miami, Munich, Osaka, Singapore, Sydney, Zurich

ii Primarily non-economic global contributions:
Abidjan, Addis Ababa, Atlanta, Basle, Barcelona, Cairo, Denver, Harare, Lyon, Manila, Mexico City, Mumbai, New Delhi, Shanghai

GaWC Research Bulletin 146
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Go count. London has more billionaires than San Francisco and the London "Metro" has more billionaires than Bay Area.
The Bay Area has more Billionaires than the entire United Kingdom, let alone London and Environs.
 
Old 09-26-2009, 04:45 PM
 
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Default re: LA

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LOL. Alpha? Not according to the experts and the statistics:



A. ALPHA WORLD CITIES (full service world cities)

+ London, New York, Paris, Tokyo

- Chicago, Frankfurt, Hong Kong, Los Angeles, Milan, Singapore

B. BETA WORLD CITIES (major world cities)

9: San Francisco, Sydney, Toronto, Zurich

8: Brussels, Madrid, Mexico City, Sao Paulo

7: Moscow, Seoul
I just thought I would quote you (again), so you (as well as others) can read how illogical your mind works. This is twice in a matter of a few pages where your own statistics you cherry pick refute and contradict what you actually say, even in the same post.
 
Old 09-26-2009, 04:49 PM
IT6
 
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I just thought I would quote you (again), so you (as well as others) can read how illogical your mind works. This is twice in a matter of a few pages where your own statistics you cherry pick refute and contradict what you actually say, even in the same post.
Are you blind? Shall I refer you to an optometrist?

ALPHA.WORLD.CITY. LONDON

BETA.WORLD.CITY.
SAN FRANCISCO.

DO.YOU.SEE.IT.NOW?
 
Old 09-26-2009, 04:52 PM
 
Location: Adams Morgan Wash DC
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Wow. This is a tough call. I like both cities, actually!!!
 
Old 09-26-2009, 04:52 PM
 
Location: roaming gnome
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Originally Posted by IT6 View Post
Are you blind? Shall I refer you to an optometrist?

ALPHA.WORLD.CITY. LONDON

BETA.WORLD.CITY.
SAN FRANCISCO.

DO.YOU.SEE.IT.NOW?
No
But you seem to have a problem with reading comprehension today.

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Originally Posted by Rhymes with Best Coast View Post
The fact is that you have been lying you a** off regarding international travel going to SF. SF is on par with LA, a 1st tier alpha city.
 
Old 09-26-2009, 04:53 PM
IT6
 
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No
But you seem to have a problem with reading comprehension today.
NO.

Los Angeles is an Alpha City. San Francisco isn't. A beta city can't be on the same level as an alpha city.
 
Old 09-26-2009, 04:54 PM
 
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NO.

Los Angeles is an Alpha City. San Francisco isn't.
Nobody said it was.
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