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To answer the OP; since I effectively live in 2 different parts of California right now, and depending on if the definitions of the metro areas stay the same:
Greater Los Angeles:
Los Angeles City- 4.01 million
Greater Los Angeles Area (incl. Los Angeles, Orange, Ventura, San Bernardino, and Riverside Counties)- 18.4 million.
It's important to note that the Inland Empire still hasn't been fully built out, so there is still plenty of room to grow, despite the fact that I really don't want it to due to QOL reasons)
San Francisco Bay Area (this one tends to be disputed for some weird reason):
San Francisco- ~810,000
Oakland- ~430,000
San Jose- ~1,020,000
San Francisco Bay Area (CSA definition includes San Francisco, San Mateo, Santa Clara, San Benito, Alameda, Contra Costa, Marin, Solano, and Sonoma) - ~7.7 million
Either metro area definition could change over time, but I believe over time given the development of American cities and suburbs, the CSA will be a much more salient definition than the MSA. Just IMO.
Last edited by Lifeshadower; 12-09-2009 at 05:17 PM..
160,000 people from the SF MSA work in the SJ MSA.
87,000 people from the SJ MSA work in the SF MSA.
600,000+ cars a day traverse the borders of these 2 Metro Areas.
Lots and lots of money flows between these 2.
Not even mentioning that SF and SJ is already connected with Caltrain, a commuter rail.
These numbers will only go up significantly from here because as many as seven San Jose BART (Bay Area rapid transit) stations are underway, with one going to San Jose International.
As far as international airports, SFO, OAK, and SJC will all be interconnected through one rail line, the Bay Area rapid transit. The eventual goal is to encircle the entire Bay from SF to SJ.
LoL @ 18montclair thinking a combined statistcal area=metropolitain statistical area.
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These numbers will only go up significantly from here because as many as seven San Jose BART (Bay Area rapid transit) stations are underway
With all due respect, what are you on? BART is not expanding anywhere. They are trying to get bart expanded to Livermore from Pleasanton (A distance of five miles) and the most generous estimates have that at 15-20 years. By the way bart only has 10% of the funding available for this project.
So to get Bart from Fremont TO SAN JOSE (which requires getting Santa Clara voters to agree to increase local county taxes to put into bart funding) is going to take alot of work. Probably wont finish until Generation Xers are all retired and starting to die off.
LoL @ 18montclair thinking a combined statistcal area=metropolitain statistical area.
With all due respect, what are you on? BART is not expanding anywhere. They are trying to get bart expanded to Livermore from Pleasanton (A distance of five miles) and the most generous estimates have that at 15-20 years. By the way bart only has 10% of the funding available for this project.
So to get Bart from Fremont TO SAN JOSE (which requires getting Santa Clara voters to agree to increase local county taxes to put into bart funding) is going to take alot of work. Probably wont finish until Generation Xers are all retired and starting to die off.
LoL @ 18montclair thinking a combined statistcal area=metropolitain statistical area.
With all due respect, what are you on? BART is not expanding anywhere. They are trying to get bart expanded to Livermore from Pleasanton (A distance of five miles) and the most generous estimates have that at 15-20 years. By the way bart only has 10% of the funding available for this project.
So to get Bart from Fremont TO SAN JOSE (which requires getting Santa Clara voters to agree to increase local county taxes to put into bart funding) is going to take alot of work. Probably wont finish until Generation Xers are all retired and starting to die off.
The Bay Area is one metro period. Whether SF and SJ should or should not be in the same MSA, who knows. But outside of city data, where anyone and everyone with a personal grudge against a metro thinks otherwise, the rest of the world outside of these forums would agree with me.....
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hummm, my guess for my city:
Houston
2.6 million city
No respect, but I really don't see how Houston is going to come up with an extra 400,000 people by next year.
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