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Old 01-04-2010, 03:05 PM
 
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Yes, what we need is a trip to suburbs. Just for the enlightment.





Yes, you do. In every place on the planet culture forms in big cities not suburbs. You need certain human critical mass for culture to develop. That's why artists tend to migrate to art districts as oppose to staying in small towns and suburbs. New Jersey failed to developed its own cities, it actually abandoned them hence no cultural movement ever started there.
Just an example, the Bronx created hip-hop culture, Brooklyn gave American the Italian-American saga perpetuated by Scrosese, Pacino, Saturday Night Fever and Godfather.
What was left for New Jersey is leech off New York, which you do all the time.. Even Sopranos were filmed in a studio in Queens. That's what you get for being an endless suburbia.
The outer boros on the other hand are a super dense and diverse area inhabited by some 6.5 million people. Go figure...

Well now you're just ranting. Must be the after-effect of the realization that no one wants to visit the outer-boroughs.

It's not *sniff* fair to compare *sniff* Qns and BK to Atlantic City *sniff*

Where in the boroughs is a yearly event that draws 600-700k people (a single event at that)?

 
Old 01-04-2010, 03:08 PM
 
Location: THE THRONE aka-New York City
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You always twists things beyond recognition.
When I was referring to the outer boroughs as mere counties, I was just simply stating that they all work and play in Manhattan just as much as nearby NJians. NJ is independent otherwise just as much as your beloved boroughs. (I'm a proud NJian, I honestly don't need NYC nearby, but since it's there, I might as well benefit.)
But I'm sure Manhattanites go to Jersey for what it has to offer more so than the outer boroughs. Quote and argue me on that.

When the 5 borough system was created, the population became more significant, that was mainly the take off. If it never happened, the outer boroughs would be in NJ or LI's situation.

Yea, we leech NY's culture. It's either that or it's all the NYers who spill into NJ and corrupt it.

No this thread was made because you started off bashing NJ thinking it was OK because your a NYer, and everyone knows if your from NYC your the greatest thing alive! Basically, you made this thread to reap what you sow.
As a NEW YORKER i could careless where Manhattanites go. Its vice versa and applies to all 5 boroughs. Bronxites,brooklynites etc are not in the same boat as new jerseyans just because we dont directly live in manhattan

The citys population which mainly resides in the boroughs, had a major part in the creation of nys greatness

No jersyans dispected the boroughs, thinking .hit is sweet, without manhattan. This thread was created to show that its not. The boroughs can go up with jersey without manhattan
 
Old 01-04-2010, 03:12 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Why are there many, many, many more people from the BOROUGHS moving to NJ, (or wishing they could move to NJ), than the other way around?
Yea, I've always found this to be the irony of NY provincialism where NJ is concerned.
 
Old 01-04-2010, 03:13 PM
 
Location: Historic Downtown Jersey City
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As a NEW YORKER i could careless where Manhattanites go. Its vice versa and applies to all 5 boroughs. Bronxites,brooklynites etc are not in the same boat as new jerseyans just because we dont directly live in manhattan

The citys population which mainly resides in the boroughs, had a major part in the creation of nys greatness

No jersyans dispected the boroughs, thinking .hit is sweet, without manhattan. This thread was created to show that its not. The boroughs can go up with jersey without manhattan
Hey man, sober up before posting. What does this post even mean? LOL. It's either the Jack Daniels, the 40 oz of malt liquor, or those world-renowned outer borough public schools.
 
Old 01-04-2010, 03:16 PM
 
Location: St Paul, MN - NJ's Gold Coast
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Originally Posted by brothersinarms View Post
Yes, what we need is a trip to suburbs. Just for the enlightment.





Yes, you do. In every place on the planet culture forms in big cities not suburbs. You need certain human critical mass for culture to develop. That's why artists tend to migrate to art districts as oppose to staying in small towns and suburbs. New Jersey failed to developed its own cities, it actually abandoned them hence no cultural movement ever started there.
What was left for New Jersey is leech off New York, which you do all the time.. That's what you get for being an endless suburbia.
The outer boros on the other hand are a super dense and diverse area inhabited by some 6.5 million people. Go figure...
A trip to the suburbs to see family, yes.
But I'm also referring to NJ malls with no sales tax on clothing (mainly in Bergen County) You NYers made shopping extremely difficult at the Garden State Plaza this holiday season with all the traffic and crowding, and the shore, another place NYers crowd every summer by the millions.

People from Newark, Paterson, and Jersey City have a lot of pride in their cities. Are you aware of this or are you too busy thinking everyone wants to be a NYer?

NJ isn't dense and diverse!? The ignorant NYers live on

2000 Census: US Municipalities Over 50,000: Ranked by 2000 Density

New Jersey has one of the most diverse populations on earth, if your ignorant to that then I can see why you've been ignorant to everything else.
 
Old 01-04-2010, 03:17 PM
 
Location: Historic Downtown Jersey City
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I agree you can't really expect New Jersey to come up with anything: not a baseball team, not own culture and definetely not a big succesfull city...
Again, are you really pitching the endless NJ suburbia agianst a 400 years old, extremely dense and diverse city inhabited by some 6.5 million people? Suburbs versus a city? You expect to win?





I won't even reply to this laughable claim...




Yeah, it started there and left shortly after. What happened? Today Queens has two big movie studios and New Jersey has none. How's that for cultural relevance?
Brothersinarms, why can't you reply to the claim that Jersey City is home to more artists than SoHo? You say it's laughable ... why? Surely you know that JC, that booming city that you see on the other side of the Hudson whose growing skyline can be seen from the West Side Highway, is a huge artist community, right? Can you prove BPerone's claim to be false?
 
Old 01-04-2010, 03:19 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Brothersinarms, why can't you reply to the claim that Jersey City is home to more artists than SoHo?
Where did you get this statistic?
 
Old 01-04-2010, 03:21 PM
 
Location: Historic Downtown Jersey City
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BPerone...you got sucked back into this thread after a hiatus. As did I ... as did I. (sigh).
 
Old 01-04-2010, 03:21 PM
 
Location: THE THRONE aka-New York City
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Hey man, sober up before posting. What does this post even mean? LOL. It's either the Jack Daniels, the 40 oz of malt liquor, or those world-renowned outer borough public schools.
Na its the lack of jersey hippness that got you. Im guessing the "S?it is sweet thing" went over your head. SMH

Well for the boroughs we have brooklyn tech and Bronx science.

And to answer nexus. The boroughs do have parades that draw that much. The carribbean parade in brooklyn and the puerto rican parade(consisting of mainly bronx and brooklynites) draw big.
 
Old 01-04-2010, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Historic Downtown Jersey City
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Where did you get this statistic?
It's BPerone's statistic ... I did not fact-check it, but since brothersinarms openly disputed it, I pointed at him to fact-check it!
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