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Old 12-23-2009, 03:11 PM
 
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This thread is about cultural significance. Now take this in, If Ellis island and the statue of liberty culturally signify with new york than whats the point of mentioning that its halfway in jersey. You tell me

Ri and MA have there own distinct new england accents. To me we dont sound alike. And like i said this is not something i just thought it would be fun to say. This came from jersians
Because ellis island IS 'half' in NJ. That's just a testament to the cultural similarities of the two locations.

 
Old 12-23-2009, 03:17 PM
 
Location: THE THRONE aka-New York City
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Because ellis island IS 'half' in NJ. That's just a testament to the cultural similarities of the two locations.
Aight man whatever. All im trying to say is that ellis island culturally is linked to new york regardless. The fact that jerseyans are arguing over things new york already has is a testament to what im trying to say
 
Old 12-23-2009, 03:19 PM
 
Location: St Paul, MN - NJ's Gold Coast
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This thread is about cultural significance. Now take this in, If Ellis island and the statue of liberty culturally signify with new york than whats the point of mentioning that its halfway in jersey. You tell me

Ri and MA have there own distinct new england accents. To me we dont sound alike. And like i said this is not something i just thought it would be fun to say. This came from jersians
I didn't mention it in this particular thread. Your the one that brought up lady liberty So there's no way for me to answer.

The new england accent was developed from European immigration as well (mainly Irish). What aren't you getting, seriously? You're so stubborn.
The mid-west had a totally different chain of immigrants causing their accent to be completely different from the NYC accent.. Therefore NYC can't claim New Jersey's accent since accents derive from immigration.
 
Old 12-23-2009, 03:27 PM
 
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Aight man whatever. All im trying to say is that ellis island culturally is linked to new york regardless. The fact that jerseyans are arguing over things new york already has is a testament to what im trying to say

Again, if you say so
 
Old 12-23-2009, 03:31 PM
 
Location: THE THRONE aka-New York City
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So now nyc has nothing to do with the jersey accent at all?. This is something yall came up with not me

And i brought up the statue of liberty as an example of leeching, just like ellis island. Same thing
 
Old 12-23-2009, 03:33 PM
 
Location: Historic Downtown Jersey City
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All I know is that I see the Statue of Liberty from my bedroom, I dock my boat in her shadow, and the Statue itself sits in NJ waters. Whether NYC claims ownership, I could care less, and neither should anybody else. It's located in NJ waters, and is shared by NY, NJ, and the world, as a symbol of our freedom.
 
Old 12-23-2009, 03:34 PM
 
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So now nyc has nothing to do with the jersey accent at all?. This is something yall came up with not me

And i brought up the statue of liberty as an example of leeching, just like ellis island. Same thing
Leeching in NJ waters?

If anything it's the other way around
 
Old 12-23-2009, 03:55 PM
 
Location: THE THRONE aka-New York City
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All I know is that I see the Statue of Liberty from my bedroom, I dock my boat in her shadow, and the Statue itself sits in NJ waters. Whether NYC claims ownership, I could care less, and neither should anybody else. It's located in NJ waters, and is shared by NY, NJ, and the world, as a symbol of our freedom.
First of all to you personally. I looked at the bronx thread and you claimed nj scores a touchdown the bronx gets a safety.lol

You compare the bronx, a borough with a outdated stigma to the whole northern portion of a state. Jersey gets wacked on so much that you needed that, something to gang up on. There are more jersey poster here than bronx first of all. Second of all i never said the bronx had more merits than the whole north jersey, i said the bronx was more culturally relevant than any city in new jersey which is true and being proven in this thread. So fall back.

The statue of liberty is a gift given to new york city. New york technically shares it with new jersey dont get it twisted. The statue of liberty faces new yorks direction. It was never meant to be "shared" with new jersey. And this thread is about cultural significance , and the statue is culturally linked to new york
 
Old 12-23-2009, 04:05 PM
 
Location: Historic Downtown Jersey City
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First of all to you personally. I looked at the bronx thread and you claimed nj scores a touchdown the bronx gets a safety.lol

You compare the bronx, a borough with a outdated stigma to the whole northern portion of a state. Jersey gets wacked on so much that you needed that, something to gang up on. There are more jersey poster here than bronx first of all. Second of all i never said the bronx had more merits than the whole north jersey, i said the bronx was more culturally relevant than any city in new jersey which is true and being proven in this thread. So fall back.

The statue of liberty is a gift given to new york city. New york technically shares it with new jersey dont get it twisted. The statue of liberty faces new yorks direction. It was never meant to be "shared" with new jersey. And this thread is about cultural significance , and the statue is culturally linked to new york
Um ... it's NJ's stigma that is outdated.

Jersey City and Hoboken have more cultural activity than the Bronx. With 1/4 the population! Where can one see live music in the Bronx? Famous concert festivals? Any good museums up there? Artist scenes? Any good restaurant rows outside of Arthur Ave? I don't think there are.

I thought you knew so much about NY? More than me, even, you claimed the other day. If you did, you'd know that the Statue of Liberty was placed facing where the Verrazano Bridge now stands ... to WELCOME the immigrants coming into Ellis Island (NJ & NY...but mostly NJ). It was placed there as a welcoming face, as if to say "Welcome, this is the land of the free". All of the immigrant ships came from the Atlantic Ocean, in between Staten Island and Brooklyn, and up through the harbor to Ellis Island. You can read primary sources from journals and diaries describing immigrants excitement when they saw the Statue looming in the distance. THIS is why the Statue faces the direction that it does.

Ugh, your NYC-centric attitude turns my stomach. To think that the Statue faces NY, just to face NY. You're quite silly. At least you learned something today.
 
Old 12-23-2009, 04:13 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Jersey gets wacked on so much that you needed that, something to gang up on.
Lets not fool ourselves. You are certainly looking for validation & fulfillment yourself (as evident by your constant need to interject in a thread about NJ & LI).

You were itching to make this thread & you know it.
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