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I think we can all agree that the area is at least a megaregion (I would still say magaopolis due to the economic ties b/t the Texas Four). Recently they have all been experiencing extreme growth. That said, I wonder what implications all this will have for places in the middle of the triangle such as Waco and the tiny twins (Bryan/College Station).
In the future (very far future) if a Lone Star rail system is set up between the Texas Four, Waco and BCS could experience large growth as well (despite their economies being pea sized compared to the likes of places like Houston and Dallas).
Location: Austin, TX/Chicago, IL/Houston, TX/Washington, DC
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I think we can all agree that the area is at least a megaregion (I would still say magaopolis due to the economic ties b/t the Texas Four). Recently they have all been experiencing extreme growth. That said, I wonder what implications all this will have for places in the middle of the triangle such as Waco and the tiny twins (Bryan/College Station).
In the future (very far future) if a Lone Star rail system is set up between the Texas Four, Waco and BCS could experience large growth as well (despite their economies being pea sized compared to the likes of places like Houston and Dallas).
The Austin-Killeen Temple Corridor is well on its way, Austin-San Marcos-New Braunfels-San Antonio is the one that has the most potential because of 35 and the toll road east of it. Bedroom Communites like Kyle-Buda-manchaca are experincing record growth.
Plus the travel between these two cities is amazing especially during the sports and entertaiment seasons (UT, Spurs, NCAA Final Four, SxSW, Texas Relays, ROT Rally, Fiesta. )
So true. The Austin-San Antonio corridor is starting to grow. Espeially driving around San Marcos outlets, the amount of plazas and appartments there building in those areas is helping close that SA-Austin gap.
Another thing I don't think people are taking into consideration is the MASSIVE amount of flights between the Triangle cities on a daily basis. In particular, the Dallas/Ft. Worth - Houston corridor is one the heaviest flown in North America. This incredible amount of flights shrinks distances between the cities to mere minutes, basically.
There is a big reason Southwest Airlines has traditionally been lukewarm at best to high speed rail proposals over the years...........
Good point. I never realized how many people fly between the TX Triangle cities.
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So true. The Austin-San Antonio corridor is starting to grow. Espeially driving around San Marcos outlets, the amount of plazas and appartments there building in those areas is helping close that SA-Austin gap.
Yeah, I travel between SA and ATX every weekend with some friends, and we see a lot of construction going on, homes and neighborhoods being built, new stores and shopping centers coming in.
Out of those 73 miles from Downtown Austin to Downtown San Antonio, there's only about 7-8 miles of rural area. The rest look like suburban cities.
Location: Austin, TX/Chicago, IL/Houston, TX/Washington, DC
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Correction the Texas 5 I do want to remind people Fort Worth economy is larger than both San Antonio and Austin.
The Texas 5 Dallas, Houston, Fort Worth, San Antonio, and Austin
Out of the top 25 cities in the country by population within the city, 6 are in Texas.
5 of them are apart of the Texas Triangle. Houston, Dallas, San Antonio, Fort Worth, and Austin.
The only one that isn't is El Paso.
Which means if the Traingle cities were to disappear, El Paso would be the center of Texas's attention. And having said that, let's hope nothing ever happens to the Triangle cities, otherwise we're doomed if El Paso is our only hope left...
Another thing I don't think people are taking into consideration is the MASSIVE amount of flights between the Triangle cities on a daily basis. In particular, the Dallas/Ft. Worth - Houston corridor is one the heaviest flown in North America. This incredible amount of flights shrinks distances between the cities to mere minutes, basically.
There is a big reason Southwest Airlines has traditionally been lukewarm at best to high speed rail proposals over the years...........
That is true. The airline industry has always been hostile to high speed rail, since most airline flights aren't long distance (or 1000+ miles), but rather more on the regional level. Southwest is a HEAVY regional carrier, so this would damage their business greatly.
I personally hate flying, and avoid it when I can. In the last 3 years living in the Bay Area, I only flew maybe 4-5 times since I felt like driving was the better option (and cheaper, since I have a fuel efficient car!)
No numbers are available for Houston-Austin, nor Houston-San Antonio on the Brookings report. If someone could find it, that would be great I am suspecting that within the triangle that there are between 9 (supposing that the Houston-Austin and SA are 1 million each) and 11 million people (supposing that its 2 million each, since it's not on the spreadsheet) flying within the triangle yearly. That's a pretty good number.
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Don't know if anyone's posted this. Some might find it interesting.
Location: Eastern Texas Principal Cities: Austin, Dallas/Fort Worth, Houston, San Antonio Population 2000: 16,131,347 Percent of U.S. Population: 6% Population 2025: 23,586,856 Projected Growth: 46% 2005 GDP: $817,510,000,000 Percent of US GDP: 7%
It's not quite the Northeast yet, but its getting more and more powerful by the day!
I understand where you're coming from on this but this is being nitpicky. I do agree that the BosWash megalopolis is the only region that can call itself that right now in America but even there is still a lot of rural land between the major cities. Especially Baltimore and Delaware. A good 50-60 miles of rural land at that (maybe shorter though).
Well there i definately disagree and i do the drive through there quite often. It is 30 miles from Christiana DE (as dense as much of Houston or Dallas (within the city limits) to White Marsh MD (again well within the Baltimore metro and again as dense much of the areas within the city limits) And that isnt including areas beyond that are mostly developed (Perryville, Joppaville, Harve De Grace etc.)
I am not trying to say TX isnt growing and fast but it isnt even close.
Oshami talked about the 4-5 hour drive; that is Boston to Philly (with traffic) and a little place with 25 million people in the middle.
Mega Region - yes - Economic Powerhouse - Yes
Megalopolis - Not even close - decades and decades away; and i can appreciate the 50 minute flight - I am in Chicago on that flight from where I live, But I am not trying to include that in the NE region
And Southwest just fine here against the Acela. And there is shuttle service galore connecting the NE cities; however because of proximity and rail the shuttle flight service skips the next city. I am not trying to go on overkill here but the discussions of Kileen development making a megalopolis in its current form; no more like a "miniapolis"
Do you guys realize there is basically a city (i think of as towns here) the size of Ft Worth (no disrespect to Ft Worth) every 15-20 miles along almost all of this stretch (Big ones capitilized little ones not from the south)
tysons corner
alexandria/rossly/arlington
DC
bethesda
columbia
Baltimore
actually some space here
wilmington
chester
Philadelphia
camden
trenton
new brunswick
newark
jersey city
NYC
new rochelle
stanford
bridgeport
new haven
hartford
some space here
providence
Boston
in addition the amount of infill to get to Richmond and Norfolk is less than in TX and VA is growing at a pretty good clip
The population differance is nearly 4 times the size and covers an area smaller than the TX triangle
Allright enough of rant; but honestly I think discussing them in the same terms is unrealistic at least for another 50 years
sorry if i got all "city" on you
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I am suspecting that within the triangle that there are between 9 (supposing that the Houston-Austin and SA are 1 million each) and 11 million people (supposing that its 2 million each, since it's not on the spreadsheet) flying within the triangle yearly. That's a pretty good number.
