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Old 12-30-2019, 12:51 AM
 
Location: The Piedmont Triad
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I think there’s some delusion about how many tiers there are and how significantly the cities in them differ.
There are three.
1) Atlanta, Miami, Dallas, Houston
2) New Orleans, Raleigh, Charlotte, Richmond, Norfolk, Nashville, Memphis, Orlando, Tampa, Jacksonville, Birmingham, Louisville, Tulsa, Oklahoma City, Little Rock, Austin, San Antonio, El Paso...
3) Greenville, Charleston (both), Savannah, Knoxville, Asheville, Wilmington, Roanoke, Lynchburg, Augusta, Lexington...

Large, medium and small. That’s all folks.



Greensboro and Winston-Salem both below Charleston WV, Roanoke and Wilmington??


My goodness.
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Old 12-30-2019, 01:54 AM
 
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I think there’s some delusion about how many tiers there are and how significantly the cities in them differ.
There are three.
1) Atlanta, Miami, Dallas, Houston
2) New Orleans, Raleigh, Charlotte, Richmond, Norfolk, Nashville, Memphis, Orlando, Tampa, Jacksonville, Birmingham, Louisville, Tulsa, Oklahoma City, Little Rock, Austin, San Antonio, El Paso...
3) Greenville, Charleston (both), Savannah, Knoxville, Asheville, Wilmington, Roanoke, Lynchburg, Augusta, Lexington...

Large, medium and small. That’s all folks.
What are your parameters for size and what metric are you using?

Not seeing how Little Rock and El Paso qualify for Tier 2.
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Old 12-30-2019, 05:45 AM
 
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They are medium sized cities. That’s how. Little Rock is definitely smaller but medium is a range, ya know.

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Old 12-30-2019, 06:09 AM
 
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They are medium sized cities. That’s how. Little Rock is definitely smaller but medium is a range, ya know.
Charleston has a bigger metro than Little Rock. As does Greenville, Knoxville, etc.
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Old 12-30-2019, 07:02 AM
 
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They are medium sized cities. That’s how. Little Rock is definitely smaller but medium is a range, ya know.
Greenville, Charleston, SC, and Knoxville, which you have in Tier 3, are bigger than both by most measures excepting municipal population.
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Old 12-30-2019, 09:28 AM
 
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Done this before, but my revisted end of 2019 opinion.

Tier 1
Atlanta
Dallas-Ft Worth
Houston
Miami

Tier2
Austin
Charlotte
Orlando
Tampa/St. Pete
Nashville
Raleigh Durham[together]

Tier 3
Virginia Beach/Norfolk
Raleigh(stand Alone)
Richmond
New Orleans
Louisville
Greensboro/Winston-Salem(together)
Greenville/Spartanburg(together)
Memphis
Oklahoma City
Birmingham
Tulsa(borderline tier 3/tier 4 imo but i will place here)

Tier 4
Greenville(stand Alone)
Little Rock
Charleston, SC
Baton Rouge
Knoxville
Columbia
El Paso
Greensboro(stand alone)
Sarasota
Winston-Salem(stand alone)(borderline. Wouldnt argue against tier 5)

Tier 5
Chattanooga
Fayetteville, AR
Huntsville
Augusta
Savannah
Durham(stand alone)
Lexington, KY
Asheville
Jackson
Myrlte Beach
Killeen
Mobile
Chorpus Christi

Tier 6
Fayetteville, NC
Tallahassee
Montgomery
Spartanburg(Stand alone)
Columbus, GA
Wilmington
Ocala, Fl
Lubbock
Florence, SC
Gainesville, FL
Waco
Hilton Head
Clarksville, TN
Etc

Tier 7
*add ur small town*



*Probably too many tiers and a few cities are debatable. Tier 5 and 6 got a little tricky. Wouldnt be mad if someone said just combine the 2 lol

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Old 12-30-2019, 01:04 PM
 
Location: Greater Orlampa CSA
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What are your parameters for size and what metric are you using?

Not seeing how Little Rock and El Paso qualify for Tier 2.
I’m not seeing them as Tier 2 cities either-though I guess if you ignore metro and the relationship it has with “city” it makes a little more sense.

El Paso does take on tremendous regional importance and has more people living in city limits than Detroit does now.

Not sure I agree fully either since I look at things more holistically-but I do see the perspective
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Old 12-30-2019, 01:56 PM
 
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I’m not seeing them as Tier 2 cities either-though I guess if you ignore metro and the relationship it has with “city” it makes a little more sense.

El Paso does take on tremendous regional importance and has more people living in city limits than Detroit does now.

Not sure I agree fully either since I look at things more holistically-but I do see the perspective
Municipal population should be the last metric considered here. When looking at size, MSA and urbanized area populations (and probably even daytime populations) are significantly more relevant. Nobody in their right mind would tier El Paso above Atlanta just because the former has more people living in its city limits.
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Old 12-30-2019, 01:59 PM
 
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Done this before, but my revisted end of 2019 opinion.

Tier 1
Atlanta
Dallas-Ft Worth
Houston
Miami

Tier2
Austin
Charlotte
Orlando
Tampa/St. Pete
Nashville
Raleigh Durham[together]

Tier 3
Virginia Beach/Norfolk
Raleigh(stand Alone)
Richmond
New Orleans
Louisville
Greensboro/Winston-Salem(together)
Greenville/Spartanburg(together)
Memphis
Oklahoma City
Birmingham
Tulsa(borderline tier 3/tier 4 imo but i will place here)

Tier 4
Greenville(stand Alone)
Little Rock
Charleston, SC
Baton Rouge
Knoxville
Columbia
El Paso
Greensboro(stand alone)
Sarasota
Winston-Salem(stand alone)(borderline. Wouldnt argue against tier 5)

Tier 5
Chattanooga
Fayetteville, AR
Huntsville
Augusta
Savannah
Durham(stand alone)
Lexington, KY
Asheville
Jackson
Myrlte Beach
Killeen
Mobile
Chorpus Christi

Tier 6
Fayetteville, NC
Tallahassee
Montgomery
Spartanburg(Stand alone)
Columbus, GA
Wilmington
Ocala, Fl
Lubbock
Florence, SC
Gainesville, FL
Waco
Hilton Head
Clarksville, TN
Etc

Tier 7
*add ur small town*



*Probably too many tiers and a few cities are debatable. Tier 5 and 6 got a little tricky. Wouldnt be mad if someone said just combine the 2 lol
The only correction I'd make is that I'd put Durham in tier 4 on the strength of its economy. Its GDP is more like the tier 4 cities than the tier 5 cities.
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Old 12-30-2019, 03:19 PM
 
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The only correction I'd make is that I'd put Durham in tier 4 on the strength of its economy. Its GDP is more like the tier 4 cities than the tier 5 cities.
That's fair. One of the few i debated on.
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