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Micheal Jackson, Boeing, United Airlines, skyscrapers, they came from Chicago too (birth city for them). I'm sure you fly between cities. Chances are those planes are made by Boeing, or the European rival Airbus.
But hey seriously though, obviously you like Bay Area more, but don't knock a place because you like yours better.
Boeing is originally from Seattle but moved to Chicago recently. It was quite a coup for Chicago.
if you just went with those 2 then yes, but I think the other ones in Chi put them slightly over the Bay Area. when you add Loyola University, University of Illinois Chicago, Northeastern Illinois University, Northern Illinois University, DePaul University, Art Institute, Academy of Art, Illinois Institute of Technology, RUSH Med, Roosevelt and Columbia College.
UChi can go head to head with Stanford, NW not quite on THAT level but still a powerful private. Chicago does not have an answer for UCB. even if you include U of I in champain.
overall I would rank them...
1. UC tied with Stanford
2. UCB
3. NW
You realize the #1 restaurant in the U.S. currently is in Chicago though right? They got Michelin guide largely b/c of the addition of wine country being an international destination along with SF for Europeans...
I totally agree on the produce. It is very noticeable...just in day to day life in what you can get in grocery stores. Strawberries, avocados, tomatoes...etc. are the best I have ever had here. Seafood is also much better.
Really depends on the cuisine though, many SF wins, many Chi wins.
I would put Northwestern above Berkeley.
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Cities(pop 65,000+) by percentage of foreign born residents(30%+), 2007
Bay Area
Daly City, CA 53.1% San Francisco
Milpitas, CA 51.3% San Francisco
Union City, CA 45.2% San Francisco
Sunnyvale, CA 43.6% San Francisco
Fremont, CA 43.1% San Francisco
Santa Clara, CA 41.4% San Francisco
San Jose, CA 39.8% San Francisco
Mountain View, CA 38.3% San Francisco
San Leandro, CA 37.8% San Francisco
San Francisco, CA 35.3% San Francisco
San Mateo, CA 35.2% San Francisco
Hayward, CA 35.0% San Francisco
Richmond, CA 33.1% San Francisco
Alameda, CA 31.5% San Francisco
Redwood City, CA 30.2% San Francisco
Chicagoland
Cicero, IL 43.3% Chicago
Skokie, IL 35.4% Chicago
Waukegan, IL 33.8% Chicago
The Bay Area has many times more cities that have a population of over 65,000.
Anyone of u chic landers use google today? watch a youtube vid? yahoo im?
Facebook?Myspace?Twitter?
I betcha did...
now name something from chicland that "impacts" every day lives of bay areans or californians in general??
and dont say obama...he grew up in hawaii(westsiddddde) , and he couldnt even win a bid for your olympics so dont even try it.
hmmm...come on, how bout that "shedd aquarium" ?? no? "wrigleyville" or whatevr? nahh.... sorry midwesterners, u just aren't as "noticed" as the coast and i guess u guys like that apparently to "keep out the outsiders from ruining your city"
before you hate, get your facts straight.
facebook started in boston, myspace is in l.a., google OWNS youtube (so one in the same if you are mentioning them), but the dudes that created it were from UIUC, where surprise surprise, the first web browser was created..Mosaic > Netscape > Mozilla > to what is now Firefox...
Anyway I am a total tech geek and use google and yahoo, not the others though, I hate the social networking sites though, the worst thing to ever happen to the internet.
Anyway since you are trolling a bit, here is one thing...CME Group... the Merc, the CBOT plus they now own NYMEX...
Berkeley at the graduate level, is incredibly impressive.
Chicago Schools=Red Bay Area Schools=Blue
US News and World Report 2009 Ranking of Graduate Schools
Best Business Schools
1-tied Harvard 1-tied Stanford 3 U. of Pennsylvania(Wharton)*SF Campus
4-tie MIT(Sloan) 4-tie Northwestern(Kellogg)
7-tie Dartmouth(Tuck) 7-tie U. of California, Berkeley(Haas)
9 Columbia
10 NYU(Stern)
11 U. of California, Los Angeles(Anderson)
12 U. of Michigan, Ann Arbor(Ross)
13 Yale
14-tie Cornell(Johnson)
14-tie Duke(Fuqua)
14-tie U. of Virginia(Darden)
Best Law Schools
1 Yale
2-tie Harvard 2-tie Stanford
4 Columbia
5 NYU 6 U. of California, Berkeley 7-tie U. of Chicago 7-tie U. of Pennsylvania 9-tie Northwestern 9-tie U. of Michigan, Ann Arbor
9-tie U. of Virginia
12 Cornell
14 Georgetown
15 Vanderbilt
Best Medical Schools
1 Harvard
2 Johns Hopkins
3 Washington U. in St. Louis
4 U. of Pennsylvania 5 U. of California, San Francisco
6-tie Duke
6-tie U. of Washington 8 Stanford
9-tie U. of California, Los Angeles
9-tie Yale
11-tie Columbia
11-tie U. of Michigan, Ann Arbor
12 Baylor
14-tie U. of California, San Diego
14-tie U. of Pittsburgh
Best Engineering Schools
1 MIT 2 Stanford 3 U. of California, Berkeley
4 Georgia Tech
5 U. of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign
6 Cal Tech
7 Carnegie Mellon
8 U. of California, Los Angeles(Viterbi)
9-tie Cornell
9 U. of Michigan, Ann Arbor
11 U. of California, San Diego
13-tie Texas A&M
13-tie U. of California, Los Angeles(Samueli)
15-tie Purdue
15-tie U. of Wisconsin, Madison
Best Education Schools 1 Stanford
2 Vanderbilt
3 U. of California, Los Angeles
4 Columbia
5 U. of Oregon
6 Harvard 7-tie U. of California, Berkeley
7-tie U. of Washington
9 U. of Michigan, Ann Arbor
10-tie U. of Pennsylvania
10-tie U. of Texas, Austin 12-tie Northwestern
12-tie U. of Wisconsin, Madison
14-tie Michigan State U.
14-tie NYU
Best Biological Sciences Schools 1 Stanford
2-tie MIT 2-tie U. of California, Berkeley
4-tie Cal Tech
4-tie Harvard
6 Johns Hopkins
7-tie Rockefeller U.
7-tie Scripps Research Institute(CA)
7-tie U. of California, San Francisco
7-tie Yale
12-tie Cornell
12-tie Duke
12-tie Princeton
15-tie Columbia
15-tie U. of Michigan, Ann Arbor
15-tie U. of Wisconsin, Madison
Best Chemistry Schools
1-tie Cal Tech
1-tie MIT 1-tie Stanford 1-tie U. of California, Berkeley
5 Harvard
6 Scripps Research Institute(CA)
7-tie U. of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign
7-tie U. of Wisconsin, Madison
9-tie Cornell 9-tie Northwestern 11 Columbia
12-tie U. of California, Los Angeles 12-tie U. of Chicago
12-tie U. of Texas, Austin
15 Yale
Best Computer Science Schools
1-tie MIT 1-tie Stanford 1-tie U. of California, Berkeley
4 Carnegie Mellon U.
5 U. of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign
6-tie Cornell
6-tie Princeton
6-tie U. of Washington
9-tie Georgia Tech
9-tie U. of Texas, Austin
11-tie Cal Tech
11-tie U. of Wisonsin, Madison
13-tie U. of California, Los Angeles
13-tie U. of Maryland, College Park
13-tie U. of Michigan, Ann Arbor
Best Earth Science Schools
1 Cal Tech
2-tie MIT 2-tie Stanford 4 U. of California, Berkeley
5-tie Columbia
5-tie U. of Michigan, Ann Arbor
7 Pennsylvania State U., University Park
8 U. of Arizona
9 Harvard
9 U. of Texas, Austin
11-tie Princeton
11-tie U. of California, Los Angeles
11-tie U. of Washington
11-tie Yale
15-tie Cornell
15-tie U. of California, San Diego 15-tie U. of Chicago
15-tie U. of Wisconsin, Madison
Best Mathematics Schools
1 Princeton
2-tie Harvard
2-tie-MIT 2-tie Stanford 2-tie U. of California, Berkeley 6 U. Of Chicago 7-tie Cal Tech
7-tie Yale
9-tie Columbia
9-tie NYU
9-tie U. of Michigan, Ann Arbor
12 U. of California, Los Angeles
13 Cornell
14-tie Brown
14-tie U. of Texas, Austin
14-tie U. of Wisconsin, Madison
Best Physics Schools
1-tie MIT 1-tie Stanford
3-tie Cal Tech
3-tie Harvard
3-tie Princeton 3-tie U. of California, Berkeley
7 Cornell 8-tie U. of Chicago
8-tie U. of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign
10 U. of California, Santa Barbara
11-tie Columbia
11-tie Yale
13-tie U. of Maryland, College Park
13-tie U. of Michigan, Ann Arbor
13-tie U. of Pennsylvania
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The Bay Area has many times more cities that have a population of over 65,000.
But it does say something when all these towns are spread out over the entire region, 20,30,40,50+ miles from Downtown San Francisco.
The region is one of the most diverse in the world.
And besides.. f*ck your numbers.. From my house up to downtown Chicago (forty five minutes), it's practically nothing but majority black neighborhoods. I doubt anything like that exists anywhere in the bay area (even majority Asian environments of that immensity.) Lily white, my ass! Come down to the south side, you wussy tourist!
Note that majority black does not mean "all black". There are plenty of white people down here, we're just the minority.
And besides.. f*ck your numbers.. From my house up to downtown Chicago (forty five minutes), it's practically nothing but majority black neighborhoods. I doubt anything like that exists anywhere in the bay area (even majority Asian environments of that immensity.)
Your bragging about one race dominating---I thought we were taking about diversity and that doesnt sound diverse at all????
The Bay Area has a very busy, very crowded, densely populated 70-mile long corridor(80/80) thru ghettos, rich suburbs, middle class etc, from Vallejo down through Richmond, Oakland, Hayward, Fremont and eventually in San Jose that has NO RACIAL MAJORITY.For 70 MILES.
And you can keep your 45 mins-the drive from Vallejo to San Jose can take 2 hours+.
So beat that, or change the subject.
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Lily white, my ass!
Maybe off White is more fitting.
DeKalb County is 80% White
DuPage County is 71% White
Kane County is 62% White
Kanakee County is 75% White
Kendall County is 73% White
Lake County is 66% White
McHenry County is 83% White
Will County is 68% White
Nothing wrong with having whites btw, but it was you who first brought the topic of Minorities not being in the suburbs and it turns out, Chicagoland is far whiter in the suburbs than the Bay Area. Its not even close.
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Come down to the south side, you wussy tourist!
Why? What's going to happen? You gonna shoot me or beat me up or something?
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