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Old 09-07-2014, 04:23 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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This is the clear truth.
Brown's recruiting & lack of coaching the previous 4 years has Texas in a deep well. To expect any kind of success overnight with such a lack of depth is being unrealistic. Brown did not leave any Ricky Williamses for Strong to work with.
Really, last I checked those two running backs Texas were putting out there were 5 star recruits.

It's absolutely ridiculous to say that Strong doesn't have any talent, and thats even WITH him kicking half the players off the team.

Here is a list:

Malcom Brown 5*
Malcolm Brown 5*
Jonathan Gray 5*
Peter Jinkins 4*
Daje Johnson 4*
Hassan Ridgway 4*
Cedric Reed 4*
Jake Raulerson 4*
John Harris 4*
Sedrick Flowers 4*
Desmond Jackson 4*
Quandre Diggs 4*
Steve Edmonds 4*
Mykylle Thompson 4*
Kent Perkins 4*
Tyrone Swoopes 4*
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Old 09-07-2014, 06:52 PM
 
Location: Austin, Texas
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Really, last I checked those two running backs Texas were putting out there were 5 star recruits.

It's absolutely ridiculous to say that Strong doesn't have any talent, and thats even WITH him kicking half the players off the team.

Here is a list:

Malcom Brown 5*
Malcolm Brown 5*
Jonathan Gray 5*
Peter Jinkins 4*
Daje Johnson 4*
Hassan Ridgway 4*
Cedric Reed 4*
Jake Raulerson 4*
John Harris 4*
Sedrick Flowers 4*
Desmond Jackson 4*
Quandre Diggs 4*
Steve Edmonds 4*
Mykylle Thompson 4*
Kent Perkins 4*
Tyrone Swoopes 4*
Remember Fred Rouse? What about Ryan Perriloux? John Brantley? Darrell Scott? Jermie Calhoun? Those guys were all five stars that were supposed to set the world on fire. Stars don't mean the world. Take a look at our overall recruiting classes over the last three years on Rivals. We don't have near the talent that we thought we did. And even if those stars did mean something, you can't do a thing if you don't have an o-line.

To be honest, Mack inherited a better team in 98 than Strong is inheriting now.
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Old 09-07-2014, 08:02 PM
 
Location: Round Rock, Texas
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Remember Fred Rouse? What about Ryan Perriloux? John Brantley? Darrell Scott? Jermie Calhoun? Those guys were all five stars that were supposed to set the world on fire. Stars don't mean the world. Take a look at our overall recruiting classes over the last three years on Rivals. We don't have near the talent that we thought we did. And even if those stars did mean something, you can't do a thing if you don't have an o-line.

To be honest, Mack inherited a better team in 98 than Strong is inheriting now.
That's what I'm saying.

Ricky had a decent o-line. The present oline couldn't run block a charging bunny, although their pass protection is decent so far.

UT hasn't had a good o-line since the year after Vince left prematurely. A bruised Colt McCoy could attest to that.

Plus "star" ratings are.... overrated. They vary from service to service.
Besides, a 5 "star" that gets poor coaching may not be a star in college.
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Old 09-07-2014, 08:09 PM
 
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That's ridiculous. You've got to write off this year as transition. They weren't going to win the Big12. BYU is pretty good to and they seriously limited the offense.
I don't know about that. Year-in, year-out, Texas has been rated at or near the top of the recruiting classes in a lot of polls. I can see losing to OU by two or three touchdowns, but if they get curb-stomped by non-conference opponents like BYU, then the boosters are going to put pressure on the AD. As another poster said, a lot of people felt like Strong was a mistake. UT can probably get anyone they want. If Greg Roman of the 49ers (who also has college experience, btw) decided that he wanted the UT job, it would be pretty easy to get it if Strong started racking up losses like these -- low expectations or not.
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Old 09-07-2014, 08:10 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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The star system doesn't account for your mental makeup. This team is soft. Mack left this program in disarray especially at the qb position. Case mccoy should not have been the qb at Texas ever. Neither should David Ash. He got lazy and at recruiting and it has costed this program. Btw, just because you have talent doesn't mean anything. It they are developed, what's the point?
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Old 09-07-2014, 08:10 PM
 
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That's what I'm saying.

Ricky had a decent o-line. The present oline couldn't run block a charging bunny, although their pass protection is decent so far.

UT hasn't had a good o-line since the year after Vince left prematurely. A bruised Colt McCoy could attest to that.

Plus "star" ratings are.... overrated. They vary from service to service.
Besides, a 5 "star" that gets poor coaching may not be a star in college.
Yeah, whatever. If Greg Roman or Bobby Petrino wants that job, strong's out. Everyone knows it.
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Old 09-07-2014, 08:14 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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I don't know about that. Year-in, year-out, Texas has been rated at or near the top of the recruiting classes in a lot of polls. I can see losing to OU by two or three touchdowns, but if they get curb-stomped by non-conference opponents like BYU, then the boosters are going to put pressure on the AD. As another poster said, a lot of people felt like Strong was a mistake. UT can probably get anyone they want. If Greg Roman of the 49ers (who also has college experience, btw) decided that he wanted the UT job, it would be pretty easy to get it if Strong started racking up losses like these -- low expectations or not.
Well strong has lost three offensive starters and his starting QB. This oline is very young an experienced. No coach would succeed with this including Saban. Remember, Saban went 7-6 in his first year. That year they lost to Louisiana-Monroe.
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Old 09-07-2014, 08:16 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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Yeah, whatever. If Greg Roman or Bobby Petrino wants that job, strong's out. Everyone knows it.
Won't have to worry about Petrino because Texas won't consider him. Was Roman a head coach? If not, Texas again will not consider him. Texas only hires coaches that were head coaches somewhere. Not coordinators or position coaches.
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Old 09-07-2014, 08:56 PM
 
Location: Austin, Texas
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Yeah, whatever. If Greg Roman or Bobby Petrino wants that job, strong's out. Everyone knows it.
I've never heard of Greg Roman before I read this thread.


And no way Texas would hire a guy with a sleazy reputation like Petrino. You really don't know how this athletic department thinks.
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Old 09-07-2014, 09:01 PM
 
Location: Austin, Texas
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I don't know about that. Year-in, year-out, Texas has been rated at or near the top of the recruiting classes in a lot of polls.
2000-2008 called. They want the perception of our recruiting back. Review our classes player by player from about 2011 til now. We are not that talented.
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