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Old 05-24-2012, 11:28 AM
 
Location: North by Northwest
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That sucks because it's a top notch university, probably better than half of the Ivies?

Also, can someone please tell me what they think of UCLA in CA? It is considered prestigious at all?
But it doesn't matter how the public perceives U Chicago because the best employers/academics (ie the people who matter) are very well acquainted with it.
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Old 05-24-2012, 11:35 AM
 
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I'm not ONE of those people. I would find an Ivy League school stifling, as well as the treadmill that comes with it.

In another thread, someone said that's what people who couldn't get in say. Considering I did practically nothing at a reputable Catholic HS and graduated in the top 10% of my class and got a healthy SAT, I'm sure if I pulled out the throttle I could have seen an Ivy - maybe not Harvard or Yale, but maybe Penn.

Right. Who cares? I'd take a larger, warm or temperate weather state school (UF, UT, UNC), avail myself of the broad and MORE PRACTICAL course offerings, and dress in shorts/flip-flops most of the year.
i thought i read "broads" at first

i thought uchicago was consistently ranked within the top ten? maybe its one of those things like upenn where it looks like it could be a public school so people don't realize how good of a school it is. they're especially good/well-known in economics

i always get BU and BC mixed up.
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Old 05-24-2012, 11:58 AM
 
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But it doesn't matter how the public perceives U Chicago because the best employers/academics (ie the people who matter) are very well acquainted with it.
Exactly right. The people that do the hiring are either aware of the good colleges or the best programs or they're just hiring the people from their own college.
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Old 05-24-2012, 02:19 PM
 
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I'm not ONE of those people. I would find an Ivy League school stifling, as well as the treadmill that comes with it.
Even at Northwestern the atmosphere was very stifling. I can only imagine an Ivy. I wished I had gone to UT-Austin, majored in Engineering and went to the lakes on the weekends.

The upper crust schools are full of competitive, pretentious, elite wannabes that take life way too seriously. Not only that but their perception of being intelligent is actually really narrow and limited. I found my colleagues to be very smart but within a framework and that framework was really conformist.

Literally they're boot camps for the future establishment, nothing more.
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Old 05-24-2012, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Warren, OH
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Prestige can be important, but emploes in the know, are not impressed by any old private college.

BU is a bit better than average. Anytime someone picks a religious college, what ever the affiliation, they run the risk of being seen as narrow minded or parochial.

Flag ship state schools are a good choice.
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Old 05-24-2012, 02:32 PM
 
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And as others stated, how business, industry and academics look at your college is what's important.
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Old 05-24-2012, 02:39 PM
 
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"prestigious?" No

Prestige sort of signifies exclusivity. BU does not have that "wow, how did you ever get in there" type of snobbery about it.

Only a few programs and schools in general have that brand. But BU is generally recognized as a "good (expensive) school."

I would say that it does have some national recognition in places where it matters, but it simply does not carry the weight with a "wow" factor attached to it.
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Old 05-24-2012, 04:17 PM
 
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Even at Northwestern the atmosphere was very stifling. I can only imagine an Ivy. I wished I had gone to UT-Austin, majored in Engineering and went to the lakes on the weekends.

The upper crust schools are full of competitive, pretentious, elite wannabes that take life way too seriously. Not only that but their perception of being intelligent is actually really narrow and limited. I found my colleagues to be very smart but within a framework and that framework was really conformist.

Literally they're boot camps for the future establishment, nothing more.
I gotta tell you, the douchery at my law school does not at all fall along undergrad lines. My best friends there went to every kind of undergrad, including Penn, Georgetown, Berkeley, BYU, Buffalo, and West Chester. I went to a state school, but I'm happy for my friends who were able to take advantage of the opportunities a top school has to offer. Had I been able to afford it, I would have been right there with them. You have no reason to be bitter since, from the sound of things, you got to the same place in the end.

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Old 05-24-2012, 06:58 PM
 
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Even at Northwestern the atmosphere was very stifling. I can only imagine an Ivy. I wished I had gone to UT-Austin, majored in Engineering and went to the lakes on the weekends.

The upper crust schools are full of competitive, pretentious, elite wannabes that take life way too seriously. Not only that but their perception of being intelligent is actually really narrow and limited. I found my colleagues to be very smart but within a framework and that framework was really conformist.

Literally they're boot camps for the future establishment, nothing more.
Now now now, didnt your top education not teach you to not generalize?
I didnt find that the case at all.

Frankly perhaps you felt this way was because, to quote you, you were the king of mediocrity?
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Old 05-24-2012, 07:47 PM
 
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Now now now, didnt your top education not teach you to not generalize?
I didnt find that the case at all.

Frankly perhaps you felt this way was because, to quote you, you were the king of mediocrity?
It had more to do with the fact that while there was a lot of racial and cultural diversity there wasn't a lot of economic diversity at these schools. I came from a really working class background, was lucky to get into NU and did alright. It's just that what glitters is not all gold.

The student body at NU and most of the top schools I visited seemed for the most part homogeneous.

I actually do make exceptions though, I should not over generalize. I think I was meant to go to a school like Berkeley, Columbia, Brown, UT-Austin or even Reed College.

NU was pretty yuppified and while not conservative, definitely conformist.

How do you guys not see that some of these top schools breed that next generation of yuppies? Even when they try to be "radical" or "revolutionary" they still manage to fall into something trendy liberal and mainstream.

Sorry, I grew up with radical 60s parents escaping dictatorship in Greece. There are no more real radicals out there challenging the status quo. They think that creating the next non-profit or social enterprise is helping (and it does) but it's really just putting a band-aid on a gun shot wound. While I am not trying to knock the innovative ways college grads are making a difference, it's not outside the box or providing any real alternatives. It's like they're completely afraid of advocating for total systemic change like the generations before them.

Most people today think that being anti-establishment or radical is just "growing up with a chip on your shoulder" or vulgar or just beneath them.

Point is, I went to NU with the impression that it was a challenging university and it wasn't.
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