Liberty University Online (cost, medical school, reviews, career)
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The thing with schools is that reputation does matter.
So... if half of the recruiters out there have negative associations with Liberty, your resume is going in the circular file RIGHT OFF THE BAT for all of those companies.
It doesn't matter if a school is actually fantastic, until the prevailing climate has changed to accept that. Unless you are attending school solely for your own enrichment, and do not regard it as a financial investment, it is wise to avoid school that carry negative reputations.
The fact that we are discussing an online program makes it that much more important. Online students have another layer of prejudice against their degrees to contend with.
The thing with schools is that reputation does matter.
So... if half of the recruiters out there have negative associations with Liberty, your resume is going in the circular file RIGHT OFF THE BAT for all of those companies.
It doesn't matter if a school is actually fantastic, until the prevailing climate has changed to accept that. Unless you are attending school solely for your own enrichment, and do not regard it as a financial investment, it is wise to avoid school that carry negative reputations.
The fact that we are discussing an online program makes it that much more important. Online students have another layer of prejudice against their degrees to contend with.
You are 100% correct. I just have never had a recruiter weigh in on the subject. Just what people have heard. Which are mostly half truths. I do belive LU is a up and coming school. Since Falwell Jr. has took over it is moving more and more mainstream.
I was talking to a co-worker of mine. He's in his 60's and remembers when Notre Dame was considered a average to crappy school. He said not many cared to attend in his day. Might have had alot to do with it not being coed at the time. But things change. Now ND is pretty well known in a good way. I'm very curious about LU's future and where it's going.
The thing with schools is that reputation does matter.
So... if half of the recruiters out there have negative associations with Liberty, your resume is going in the circular file RIGHT OFF THE BAT for all of those companies.
It doesn't matter if a school is actually fantastic, until the prevailing climate has changed to accept that. Unless you are attending school solely for your own enrichment, and do not regard it as a financial investment, it is wise to avoid school that carry negative reputations.
The fact that we are discussing an online program makes it that much more important. Online students have another layer of prejudice against their degrees to contend with.
Until an actual recruiter posts and says that half of his or her counterparts feel the same, the argument is null, and even if one did, it still would be. The number of alumni I know of in great positions far outweighs the negative bias forum lurkers post. It is common knowledge that both the schools and the hospitals in the Lynchburg region are as likely to choose an LU grad as they will a UVa grad. Since Areva and BWX are both involved with the Liberty Engineering department at some level, the result will be the same. If the companies are involved with the school, do you really think their recruiters throw away the resume with a Liberty degree on it? Their is more prejudice when it comes to online programs, but since Liberty is a non-profit with a very substantial brick and mortar campus, it does give the online learner a leg up over the DeVry/Phoenix/for profit students.
Liberty has a bad reputation for many reasons. One of them is it's association with it's polarizing founder, Rev. Jerry Falwell. Face it, he's a "love him or hate him" kind of person. And yes, I am aware that he is dead.
The man had some rather extreme positions on a number of issuers. Some of his comments were rather hateful. It's not a just a religious school - it's a Fundamentalist religious school. And there are more moderates than extremists in the world.
I would absolutely avoid DeVry/Phoenix and others like them. I'd also avoid Liberty, Bob Jones and Oral Roberts. None are very good schools, by the way. Then add the extreme Fundamentalism and unless you want to work for a company owned and run by Fundamentalist Christian Zealots. Then it would be a plus.
Yeah, before I enrolled in LU I googled the hell out of LU's rep or anything related. It dawned on me hardly anyone has first hand info. The ones that do love LU, of course you have the small percent that are negative. But thats common with anything. Any forum type info you find on the Internet concerning LU is people's opinions based on others people's opinions. Makes me wonder does anyone do actual research anymore? Or has our society digressed Into Wikipedia based facts or I heard this fact from a friend of a friend...LOL.
3 pages of this forum have been wrote. So far only around 3 people including myself have any first hand knowledge of LU.
Your last sentence really confirms what everyone else is saying - I don't need to have "first hand experience" with Liberty to dislike it. How would I get such experience unless I took a class there, sent a child there, or taught there.
And I would not go near the place with a ten foot pole! And I'm a Christian and a church counsel member! What about non - Christians? Atheists? Agnostics?
Falwell said that NYC deserved 9/11 and New Orleans deserved Katrina. I don't need to know more.
Your last sentence really confirms what everyone else is saying - I don't need to have "first hand experience" with Liberty to dislike it. How would I get such experience unless I took a class there, sent a child there, or taught there.
And I would not go near the place with a ten foot pole! And I'm a Christian and a church counsel member! What about non - Christians? Atheists? Agnostics?
Falwell said that NYC deserved 9/11 and New Orleans deserved Katrina. I don't need to know more.
Well I need a good reason to dislike anything. I have to have had some form of first hand experience with whatever in question. Till then I tell my wife "I'm not a fan"....LOL.
Last edited by curtisc83; 12-05-2012 at 07:02 PM..
Until an actual recruiter posts and says that half of his or her counterparts feel the same, the argument is null, and even if one did, it still would be. The number of alumni I know of in great positions far outweighs the negative bias forum lurkers post. It is common knowledge that both the schools and the hospitals in the Lynchburg region are as likely to choose an LU grad as they will a UVa grad. Since Areva and BWX are both involved with the Liberty Engineering department at some level, the result will be the same. If the companies are involved with the school, do you really think their recruiters throw away the resume with a Liberty degree on it? Their is more prejudice when it comes to online programs, but since Liberty is a non-profit with a very substantial brick and mortar campus, it does give the online learner a leg up over the DeVry/Phoenix/for profit students.
I'm in a great postion myself. LU hasn't hurt me in the least bit. I'm in IT/Telecommunications and most people in my field tend to have a UOP degree. My regional manager has every degree he has to include his MBA from UOP. I don't think a LU degree is going to hurt me....LOL.
Last edited by curtisc83; 12-05-2012 at 07:00 PM..
Your last sentence really confirms what everyone else is saying - I don't need to have "first hand experience" with Liberty to dislike it. How would I get such experience unless I took a class there, sent a child there, or taught there.
And I would not go near the place with a ten foot pole! And I'm a Christian and a church counsel member! What about non - Christians? Atheists? Agnostics?
Falwell said that NYC deserved 9/11 and New Orleans deserved Katrina. I don't need to know more.
Wow. Get a grip on your emotions! It's funny the folks who admonish a long dead man for his intolerance are just as venomous in their uninformed commentary about a present day institution. You will not affect any with your comments, so why bother? The OP will not make a choice for or against the school based on your comments, and readers who know otherwise won't change their minds. Hopefully, your ranting will help ease some of the bitterness that you seem to have!
By the way... what in the world is a church council member?
A great way to see how alumni are doing is easy. Most white collar professionals are on LinkedIn.com. Use the advanced search function and search by school. Type "Liberty University" in the school search box and bam you can see for yourself.
I've already seached awhile ago when I was researching LU. LU has a overwhelming amount of grads doing well. One recent grad is now a sideline reporter for ESPN's Longhorn Network. The list doesn't stop there. I think the prove is in the pudding on this subject.
Wow. Get a grip on your emotions! It's funny the folks who admonish a long dead man for his intolerance are just as venomous in their uninformed commentary about a present day institution. You will not affect any with your comments, so why bother? The OP will not make a choice for or against the school based on your comments, and readers who know otherwise won't change their minds. Hopefully, your ranting will help ease some of the bitterness that you seem to have!
By the way... what in the world is a church council member?
Nothing that I said was "venomous". I repeated Falwell's comments. Here's another Gem by Jerry - he referred to actress and comedian Ellen DeGeneres as "Ellen DeGenerate" Very nice. I'd call that venomous. She is a lovely, accomplished and talented women who does a lot for charity, including Animal Welfare.
You do not know what a church counsel is? I will explain. It's an elected body of church members who act as advisers and confidants to the pastors of a church, and express the will of the congregation. They are involved with administration, disbursement of funds, counting and recording Sunday contributions, and assisting the various ministries of the church. Sort of like a board of directors.
If Falwell did not want to be remembered as a hateful man in death, he should have refrained from saying hateful things while alive.
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