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Damn, three degrees? :P Well, I'm divided on whether I am going to go for my Master's or not. I'm most certainly not going for a Ph.D though.
No i dont have a Ph D, I started off in community college so I have an associates degree in Biological Sciences, B.S in Chemistry and a Masters in Microbiology. Sorry I didnt explain myself thoroughly
oh ok lol. Yeah, I should've done the same myself. The two years I spent at home after graduating HS, I could've gone to CC and got an Associates
And saved a bunch of money on my tuition. But anyhow, I'm going to transfer schools and continue my education in business or meteorology depending on the circumstances. Thanks for all the advice everyone.
My Economics Professor told us about similar careers with the Federal Reserve, which where I originally got the idea to join the federal gov't from even though the Fed isn't part of the fed'l gov't.
And they have entry level positions?
Yup, I can't remember the exact title but it's something like "economic analyst", I believe. I know someone who spent about 6 months at the FTC before moving to the Fed, and in my classes I know people who work for the BEA, BLS, SEC. I also know people at the FDIC, Freddie Mac, and Fannie Mae who all graduated from college less than 2 years ago. Treasury is having trouble hiring people so I've seen a bunch of announcements for them. It's also a little surprising how many agencies/departments want people with economics backgrounds. I know people working with Dept of Defense, Agriculture, Energy and Coast Guard all as economists. Some of them have a master's degree, but others don't. I also know several people who have gotten their Master's degrees paid for by their employer (I'm almost halfway done on mine).
FBI also hires a lot of financial analysts, which you can look into. They also have a general entry level program in counterterrorism which you can then segue into an Intelligence Analyst or Agent track.
We are very probably headed toward a permanent economic future where there is going to be less specialization. Whatever you do, make sure you are as well-rounded as possible. And by "well rounded" I don't mean interdisciplinary studies... I mean, learn how to fix a toilet, build a website, knit a sweater, babysit children, in addition to getting a college degree.
In the future, a couple companies might need a couple people with bachelor's degrees in sport management or master's degrees in higher educational administration or Ph.D.'s in elementary particle physics... but there sure as hell won't be 100 companies needing 100 of people with any of these types of specialized degrees. That ship has sailed.
So, when considering just how many of your eggs you want to put in one basket, ask yourself: "Do you feel lucky, punk?"
We are very probably headed toward a permanent economic future where there is going to be less specialization. Whatever you do, make sure you are as well-rounded as possible. And by "well rounded" I don't mean interdisciplinary studies... I mean, learn how to fix a toilet, build a website, knit a sweater, babysit children, in addition to getting a college degree.
In the future, a couple companies might need a couple people with bachelor's degrees in sport management or master's degrees in higher educational administration or Ph.D.'s in elementary particle physics... but there sure as hell won't be 100 companies needing 100 of people with any of these types of specialized degrees. That ship has sailed.
So, when considering just how many of your eggs you want to put in one basket, ask yourself: "Do you feel lucky, punk?"
I do agree that being well-rounded is the way to go. At the same time, specialization is necessary. Although, I'm not thinking of elementary particle physics, but biotech, where having some specialization is necessary. OTOH, it can be argued that, in the US at least, we're going to outsource our scientific needs. But, if the US is going to remain a global contender it will have to be via technology/sciences. I don't see how we will thrive on service, generally.
No there is no point going to college, since you already know you are not going to be able to find a job.
Best bet is to quit college now, then either go work at McDonald's and stay at your parents house basement.
Oh a quicker way, find a gun and blow your brain out, since you know you are going to die sooner or later.
Wake up Croye
I'm so tired of the McDonald's jokes. I have a four year degree, and a McDonald's shift manager I personally know is making 40K+ with great benefits without a college degree.
My degree is in the human services field. The salaries for social workers and case workers are going down every year.
College is a gamble these days; you either hit the jackpot, lose miserably and count your lost, or (very rarely) break even.
I graduated along side with nurses, civil and chemical engineers, med techs, and IT grads that are still unemployed or underemployed since '06. Employers keep stating they need more and more nurses, engineers, and IT techs. I know dozens that are in need of work.
People don't want to admit that a person working at a fast food joint or at a retail store can make more money than a person with a college degree.
There are college grads I know that are STILL living with their parents or MOVED back in with their parents because of the tough job market and the high payment of student loans.
I have a cousin who is a waitress at the cheesecake factory is is being home 35K a year in just tips and DOESN'T have a high school education (she dropped out).
Croye, if you want to quit, quit. Work hard at a job and work your way up. Take a class or two a semester if you want to finish your degree.
I'm happy I'm finished with my education just because I don't have the energy or patience to do it again.
But if I had to, I would have just stopped with vocational training or an associate's degree.
The myth of a college degree leading to instant of future wealth and job security needs to be dispelled.
I'm so tired of the McDonald's jokes. I have a four year degree, and a McDonald's shift manager I personally know is making 40K+ with great benefits without a college degree.
My degree is in the human services field. The salaries for social workers and case workers are going down every year.
College is a gamble these days; you either hit the jackpot, lose miserably and count your lost, or (very rarely) break even.
I graduated along side with nurses, civil and chemical engineers, med techs, and IT grads that are still unemployed or underemployed since '06. Employers keep stating they need more and more nurses, engineers, and IT techs. I know dozens that are in need of work.
People don't want to admit that a person working at a fast food joint or at a retail store can make more money than a person with a college degree.
There are college grads I know that are STILL living with their parents or MOVED back in with their parents because of the tough job market and the high payment of student loans.
I have a cousin who is a waitress at the cheesecake factory is is being home 35K a year in just tips and DOESN'T have a high school education (she dropped out).
Croye, if you want to quit, quit. Work hard at a job and work your way up. Take a class or two a semester if you want to finish your degree.
I'm happy I'm finished with my education just because I don't have the energy or patience to do it again.
But if I had to, I would have just stopped with vocational training or an associate's degree.
The myth of a college degree leading to instant of future wealth and job security needs to be dispelled.
"nurses"
Then they are not looking or not willing to move.
And the Army will be glad to have them, and they will become officers.
The VA I go to seems to always to have posting for Nurses openings on the job board.
I'm so tired of the McDonald's jokes. I have a four year degree, and a McDonald's shift manager I personally know is making 40K+ with great benefits without a college degree.
My degree is in the human services field. The salaries for social workers and case workers are going down every year.
College is a gamble these days; you either hit the jackpot, lose miserably and count your lost, or (very rarely) break even.
I graduated along side with nurses, civil and chemical engineers, med techs, and IT grads that are still unemployed or underemployed since '06. Employers keep stating they need more and more nurses, engineers, and IT techs. I know dozens that are in need of work.
People don't want to admit that a person working at a fast food joint or at a retail store can make more money than a person with a college degree.
There are college grads I know that are STILL living with their parents or MOVED back in with their parents because of the tough job market and the high payment of student loans.
I have a cousin who is a waitress at the cheesecake factory is is being home 35K a year in just tips and DOESN'T have a high school education (she dropped out).
Croye, if you want to quit, quit. Work hard at a job and work your way up. Take a class or two a semester if you want to finish your degree.
I'm happy I'm finished with my education just because I don't have the energy or patience to do it again.
But if I had to, I would have just stopped with vocational training or an associate's degree.
The myth of a college degree leading to instant of future wealth and job security needs to be dispelled.
You are looking at outliers here to make your case, they are not the norm. Look at this chart from the Department of Labor. This chart has a breakdown of the 2008 unemployment rate and median weekly earnings.
http://www.bls.gov/emp/edupay.jpg (broken link)
I think the chart clearly states, that the highest your education level the more likely you are of having future wealth and job security
The economy is not going to recover anytime soon. Obama is doing his best to turn America into a third-world cesspool of fabian socialism and economic fascism. Colleges are cutting classes and raising tuition. Your best bang for your buck is learning to be self sufficient and produce your food, cut your energy bill with solar and wind. There are no jobs except law enforcement and getting in debt for 20-100k without a job market is financial suicide.
I feel you brother. I should have gotten a degree in journalism, but I was never good in Math. Now at 41 what is the point? Our country is collapsing. I'd love to be a baord operator for your show. Let me know.
Im not 100% with you on the 9/11 conspiracies, but I am definitely in agreement with you on other things.
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