[Stepfordct]

Originally Posted by RiskReturn

Recently moved to TX. Planning on moving back to NYC by end of year.

Wouldn't be surprised if the ideological roadmap the far-right gov't has in mind erases any economic gains made in the past few years.

All economic gains the past few years have been obliterated by inflation.

[Stepfordct]

This all sounds similar to the celebrities who threaten to move to Canada if Trump was elected or some other event that triggers them. Yet they never do......

Of course assuming they could legally move to Canada in the first place which has strict immigration policies.....

[norcal2k19]

Originally Posted by cttransplant85

Not according to the trends of the past 25 years. People are fleeing CT for the freedom and growth of red states in the south. CT is a great place to live but the expense coupled with all the bureaucracy has made it less desirable. I can live a CT lifestyle in suburban North Carolina for half the price.

This "growth" notion is a red herring when most of these booming cities in the South can't afford basics like trash pickup and building sidewalks. Also - this notion of freedom is misleading too when reproductive health care choices are limited (this is bad for business as the new wealth in industries like tech tend to be creative folks) and these states have silly laws on things like cannabis.

I grew up in a booming Southern town and much prefer the stable/modest growth in CT. It actually allows for more freedom and we've been able to keep up our high disposable income per capita. The bill is going to come due with all the new growth in the South and the shock to taxpayers down there is going to be really interesting. At least CT has been holding the line on taxes in recent years...

[Stepfordct]

Originally Posted by norcal2k19

This "growth" notion is a red herring when most of these booming cities in the South can't afford basics like trash pickup and building sidewalks. I grew up in a booming town and much prefer the stable/modest growth in CT. It actually allows for more freedom and we've been able to keep up our high disposable income per capita. The bill is going to come due with all the new growth in the South and the shock to taxpayers down there is going to be really interesting. At least CT has been holding the line on taxes in recent years...

Towns here in Fairfield county have privatized trash pickup.

[norcal2k19]

Originally Posted by Hiruko

Even as a decidedly pro-choice voter, I think that people are very naive if they think that vast numbers of people are going to pick up roots and move because of their state's abortion policies. That did not occur before Roe and there is no reason to think that it will happen after. Will there be short or medium-term controversy over it especially with regard to corporate relocations—maybe? But, there are not enough women and families obtaining abortions to make this an extremely important issue for most people.

During the patchwork era of same-sex marriage laws, there were not thousands upon thousands of same-sex couples relocating to find legal recognition of their marriage. Even today, with a state-by-state patchwork of LGBT protections, I have never heard of someone relocating to a particular state because of the laws on their books.

I think the verdict is still out on that - we may see a migration wave. There's a big difference today than in the past in the sense that we're much more connected via the internet than in years past. For example CT's subreddit has been booming over the last two years - that's really interesting.

[Stepfordct]

Originally Posted by norcal2k19

I think the verdict is still out on that - we may see a migration wave. There's a big difference today than in the past in the sense that we're much more connected via the internet than in years past. For example CT's subreddit has been booming over the last two years - that's really interesting.

Because they are all home not working.....

[7 Wishes]

Originally Posted by Stepfordct

This is not going to happen at all ever. Even Fauci couldn't stop traveling between states......

Originally Posted by SteveM85

Right, and how would they know anyway? Are they going to set up checkpoints nationwide? It's just another example of sensational proggy journalism. It's really just unconscionable at this point.

There's a big difference between simply traveling with a car to see your relatives and going to a doctor that is easier to document and prosecute. Of course all instances wouldn't be caught but some will.

Originally Posted by cttransplant85

Not according to the trends of the past 25 years. People are fleeing CT for the freedom and growth of red states in the south. CT is a great place to live but the expense coupled with all the bureaucracy has made it less desirable. I can live a CT lifestyle in suburban North Carolina for half the price.

Except that with Roe it went far enough to change that being the only part of the equation. Similarly, all this about inflation and gas prices would be a complete layup for eventual Republican control but they alienated too many people with what they want to do with Roe and guns and all the election gaslighting. Obviously they didn't alienate everyone so the end result is a 50-50 nation and now you'll see both kinds of movements. There are a good deal of people who see some of the expenses and bureaucracy needed to have some social safety nets that are relatively lacking in the red states, though for some it may still be too unaffordable and blunt some of it. For many "freedom" in red states is really "freedom to fail or to get sick with no help or hope to recover and bounce back".

Originally Posted by SteveM85

Maybe not laws on the book but they're absolutely relocating based on ideological principles. No question. I'm not sure about northern migrations. The numbers just aren't there. Not with any significance. Roe or no Roe. Climate or no climate. Housing starts down south prove that point. Covid henchmen and woke mobs have driven hordes to migrate south. As time goes on more and more will seek their own sanctuary state, whatever direction works for them.

The things causing reverse ideological migrations have just begun so you can't really go by that, lets see what the stats are a year from now, I think you'll a lot of both directions of migrations, maybe expenses will still make migrations to red states more but there'll be significant migration to blue states too. Guns were not enough to do it, but now it may be but especially when you combine it with Roe. Jan 6 and related election stuff didn't help either.

[MikefromCT]

People migrating to areas where a state's ideology more closely aligns with their values absolutely IS happening. It has been for a while now, and you can expect that to continue. If you don't believe me, just look at the electoral map of presidential elections over the last 30 years. Many states were won by the slim margins, proving that people weren't as politically charged as they are now, they were more likely to consider either candidate, and they didn't identify themselves by whom they voted for in the last election. They do now, though. Election results are very state-specific now, and this is a relatively recent phenomenon. Another trend is the growing polarization between cities/inner suburbs vs. rural areas. In each state, the trend is everywhere and always the same: the rural areas are geographically large, thinly populated, and conservative, the cities are the small blue dots on a state map that contain huge populations, in sometimes the majority of a state's population, and these tend to be liberal enclaves. Previously this was the case, the difference now, though, is the suburbs have gone multiethnic and they've become either a swing region or Democratic-leaning (increasingly the latter) and the contrast between conservative and liberal has grown even more stark. Again, this, too, will likely continue.

[7 Wishes]

Originally Posted by MikefromCT

People migrating to areas where a state's ideology more closely aligns with their values absolutely IS happening. It has been for a while now, and you can expect that to continue. If you don't believe me, just look at the electoral map of presidential elections over the last 30 years. Many states were won by the slim margins, proving that people weren't as politically charged as they are now, they were more likely to consider either candidate, and they didn't identify themselves by whom they voted for in the last election. They do now, though. Election results are very state-specific now, and this is a relatively recent phenomenon. Another trend is the growing polarization between cities/inner suburbs vs. rural areas. In each state, the trend is everywhere and always the same: the rural areas are geographically large, thinly populated, and conservative, the cities are the small blue dots on a state map that contain huge populations, in sometimes the majority of a state's population, and these tend to be liberal enclaves. Previously this was the case, the difference now, though, is the suburbs have gone multiethnic and they've become either a swing region or Democratic-leaning (increasingly the latter) and the contrast between conservative and liberal has grown even more stark. Again, this, too, will likely continue.

I think it certainly has from blue to red states (almost everyone I know around here who moved to Florida in the last 2-3 years is doing it for ideological reasons, and I know a couple of people who even moved to Texas), but I think the reverse is only starting now to be a significant trend because of guns and a lot more Roe.

[SteveM85]

Originally Posted by MikefromCT

People migrating to areas where a state's ideology more closely aligns with their values absolutely IS happening. It has been for a while now, and you can expect that to continue. If you don't believe me, just look at the electoral map of presidential elections over the last 30 years. Many states were won by the slim margins, proving that people weren't as politically charged as they are now, they were more likely to consider either candidate, and they didn't identify themselves by whom they voted for in the last election. They do now, though. Election results are very state-specific now, and this is a relatively recent phenomenon. Another trend is the growing polarization between cities/inner suburbs vs. rural areas. In each state, the trend is everywhere and always the same: the rural areas are geographically large, thinly populated, and conservative, the cities are the small blue dots on a state map that contain huge populations, in sometimes the majority of a state's population, and these tend to be liberal enclaves. Previously this was the case, the difference now, though, is the suburbs have gone multiethnic and they've become either a swing region or Democratic-leaning (increasingly the latter) and the contrast between conservative and liberal has grown even more stark. Again, this, too, will likely continue.

It's not just multi-ethnic. Limousine progs are starting to make waves in CT suburbs, eventually leading to total domination within the decade. Nationwide, hispanics will trend more red as time goes on, religion and core family values are their backbone.
7 Wishes is right, in time there will be more of those who will head north for the reasons mentioned, but right now new housing starts are dominating TX, FL, TN and the Carolinas, specifically the entire SC coast is a construction zone right now. It's like nothing you've ever seen in your life. CT's 8-30gs pale in comparison.
Hundreds of thousands in blue states were left with no choice but to flee from radical Covidized politicians and over sensitive culture warriors and watchdogs. Those numbers will continue to grow as time goes on. This coming November's republican bloodbath in CT will be the last straw for many of the state's holdouts.