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Old 01-04-2014, 09:50 PM
 
Location: Northville, MI
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Permits are very difficult to obtain for everyday jersey folk. We can't carry anything to protect ourselves here. Only option is to depend on the cops.
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Old 01-04-2014, 09:54 PM
 
Location: DFW
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Permits are not offered to everyday jersey folk. We can't carry anything to protect ourselves here. Only option is to depend on the cops.
Sad. If you're attacked what is the response time for a NJ cop ?
I'm sure they do an excellent job but first you've got to dial 911.

We Texans believe in your right to carry and self protect.
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Old 01-04-2014, 09:58 PM
 
Location: Northville, MI
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Sad. If you're attacked what is the response time for a NJ cop ?
I'm sure they do an excellent job but first you've got to dial 911.

We Texans believe in your right to carry and self protect.
Usually here in about 2.5 minutes. Towns are small here.
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Old 01-04-2014, 10:52 PM
 
Location: Myrtle Creek, Oregon
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Sad. If you're attacked what is the response time for a NJ cop ?
I'm sure they do an excellent job but first you've got to dial 911.

We Texans believe in your right to carry and self protect.
But it's illegal to carry a sword in Texas.

Texas is weird.
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Old 01-05-2014, 05:13 AM
 
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But it's illegal to carry a sword in Texas.

Texas is weird.
I lived in Texas for ten years. Texas is weird to those who don't live there, yes.
If you actually live there, it sorta makes sense.

You know it's illegal to carry pliers in your glovebox in Texas?
This goes back to the days of cattle rustlers using pliers to breach barbed wire fences. And the rustlers carried pliers in their saddlebags. This translated to the current stupid law.

there's nothing against carrying pliers in your car or your trunk, just not the glovebox.

Of course, you'll also never get busted for it.
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Old 01-05-2014, 05:45 PM
 
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It may be a good thing that the cops didn't get there sooner!

Police Detective Rapes Woman, Gets a Few Years of Probation | Cop Block

http://www.oregonlive.com/beaverton/...r_accus_1.html

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DV3ayPx...%3DDV3ayPxaWNM

http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...raped-her.html

http://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/illi....google.com%2F

Cops are more apt to be the rapist! http://www.copblock.org/1813/rapists-with-a-badge/

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Old 01-09-2014, 12:24 AM
 
Location: Corona the I.E.
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Exactly, Phil. My Rod and Gun Club, which conducts the required firearm safety classes for a Concealed Carry Permit, went one step further. They organized a seminar featuring the County District Attorney, the County Sheriff, a Circuit Court judge and a District Court judge, to give people the bottom line true scoop on self defense. Yes, there are times when self defense is necessary. They were very clear about the kind of behavior that would put you in jail, vs. the times when self defense is justified.

What people often don't understand is that any fatal shooting is investigated as a homicide, even if it is accidental. Police shootings are investigated as homicides too. Detectives will collect evidence at the scene and question witnesses. As long as the evidence supports self defense, there will be no prosecution.
I realize I am coming to this thread late, but I thought this was important. Some good videos on when you can legally pull a firearm on someone and what you should and shouldn't say to the cops afterwards.




Wrong and Right Way to Shoot Someone (Best Defense) - YouTube





When Is It Justified To Draw Your Firearm? - YouTube






Massad Ayoob (Aftermath Shooting) - YouTube
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Old 01-09-2014, 09:12 AM
 
Location: Oceania
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Ah, yes, the typical Yuppie Boomer-era American attitude of "I got mine, eff you!"
In fact, the mantra should be..."I stole mine from my kids, eff them and everyone else, too!"

We X'ers were the first generation of totally unwanted children...who were seen as inconvenient and "in the way" and thus were also the first generation who didn't really matter to their parents (Boomers) - and so it became perfectly okay to mortgage our future to pay for THEIR self-indulgence.

They took their share of the pie and ours...and left us nary a crumb.

The worst part is...now they know they screwed up - and wonder why WE are screwed up...we know...and so we will fix the mess, the next generation will have the emphasis placed on them just as we are getting old, and us X'ers...as always, will be left to swing in the wind.

God I hate the effing Yuppies.

Depending on your parent's age, I would put more onus toward your grandparents.
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Old 01-09-2014, 01:50 PM
 
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Depending on your parent's age, I would put more onus toward your grandparents.

Actually, I place it on both the Silents and the Boomers...but much more on the Boomers.

My parents are very much early Boomers, born respectively in 1946 and 1947.

But the Silents did their part, too, in screwing the Xer's.
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Old 06-27-2015, 07:19 PM
 
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Wonder if there has ever been volunteer law enforcement much like firefighters.

At this point they are pretty much like the old wild west. Every man should be packing a gun openly.
That was largely how law enforcement in most rural area was organized up until about the time of the thirties and Bonnie & Clyde, Bollinger, etc. And even full time professional officer often had to patrol in their personal vehicles, use their personal firearms, etc. Things started getting more formal at this time because the criminals were getting more sophisticated.
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