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the ""no police available" i understand. what i do not understand is a multa billion dollar justice system devoted to stripping me of my home job and incarcerating me- if i defend myself when "no police are available".
But that applies to California more than most other states. In my state, shooting an intruder is acceptable, and carrying a gun in my car is permitted.
in case anyone missed it in the comments, it says she has a felony record for drug possession so she would not have been able to obtain a gun anyway. Or would you want those with records to still be able to purchase them? I bet the answer is... "it depends".
I already referenced a Florida case for you, and I can assure you the laws in PA and NJ are such that a woman who shoots an attacker is going to find herself at risk of murder or attempted murder charges.
I don't know how things are in Oregon, but I can assure you that in the NE of America, this is how things are.
I already pointed out that the Florida case had nothing to do with self defense. She just started spraying lead because her ex wanted to see his child.
As for Pennsylvania, you should familiarize yourself with the laws of your state:
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(2) The use of deadly force is not justifiable under this section unless the actor believes that such force is necessary to protect himself against death, serious bodily injury, kidnapping or sexual intercourse compelled by force or threat; nor is it justifiable if:
(i) the actor, with the intent of causing death or serious bodily injury, provoked the use of force against himself in the same encounter; or
(ii) the actor knows that he can avoid the necessity of using such force with complete safety by retreating or by surrendering possession of a thing to a person asserting a claim of right thereto or by complying with a demand that he abstain from any action which he has no duty to take, except that:
(A) the actor is not obliged to retreat from his dwelling or place of work, unless he was the initial aggressor or is assailed in his place of work by another person whose place of work the actor knows it to be; and
(B) a public officer justified in using force in the performance of his duties or a person justified in using force in his assistance or a person justified in using force in making an arrest or preventing an escape is not obliged to desist from efforts to perform such duty, effect such arrest or prevent such escape because of resistance or threatened resistance by or on behalf of the person against whom such action is directed.
Once again spoken like a true MAN...who does not know what it is like to be overpowered by a person three times their strength.
Listen, all of you MEN...you don't even GET to talk about rape, okay?
When YOU face the risk of being so violated, THEN you get to talk about it...until then, you can keep your mouths SHUT.
You have NO IDEA what a woman faces in that situation.
You need to get off this sexism kick. Men are much more likely to be victims of violent crime than women are. If you won't accept the advice of people who deal with it much more often than you do, you are not engaging reality. We have no interest in being your gynecounselor, but plenty of interest in explaining how you can prevent it. You are the one who refuses to take reasonable steps to protect herself.
in case anyone missed it in the comments, it says she has a felony record for drug possession so she would not have been able to obtain a gun anyway. Or would you want those with records to still be able to purchase them? I bet the answer is... "it depends".
I said that was a possibility. I don't really know.
I already pointed out that the Florida case had nothing to do with self defense. She just started spraying lead because her ex wanted to see his child.
As for Pennsylvania, you should familiarize yourself with the laws of your state:
You will note that Pennsylvania also has the Castle Doctrine.
If you are not willing to take responsibility for your own safety, you are just determined to cast yourself as a victim. There is no help for you.
You will STILL go to court and stand trial, where you will be forced to PROVE you acted appropriately, and that will also require a good attorney...and you stand the risk of being tossed in jail, even so.
You can't just blow someone away and then not have a WHOLE BUNCH of trouble down the road.
Your MACHO answer to everything just doesn't work, Dirty Harry.
You will STILL go to court and stand trial, where you will be forced to PROVE you acted appropriately, and that will also require a good attorney...and you stand the risk of being tossed in jail, even so.
You can't just blow someone away and then not have a WHOLE BUNCH of trouble down the road.
Your MACHO answer to everything just doesn't work, Dirty Harry.
Listen to what you are saying. You would rather be raped than exercise your right to self defense, even though your state law explicitly allows deadly force to prevent rape. If that's what you want, fine. I think it's the wrong choice.
Listen to what you are saying. You would rather be raped than exercise your right to self defense, even though your state law explicitly allows deadly force to prevent rape. If that's what you want, fine. I think it's the wrong choice.
NO....I would rather AVOID GOING TO COURT LATER TO EXPLAIN MYSELF....AND AVOID FACING THE RISK OF BEING THROWN INTO JAIL IF I CAN'T PROVE SELF-DEFENSE.
NO....I would rather AVOID GOING TO COURT LATER TO EXPLAIN MYSELF....AND AVOID FACING THE RISK OF BEING THROWN INTO JAIL IF I CAN'T PROVE SELF-DEFENSE.
Sounds like a case for stand your ground laws. These duty to retreat laws are rubbish!
Sounds like a case for stand your ground laws. These duty to retreat laws are rubbish!
Yeah...so more George Zimmermans can get away with blowing away Trayvon Martins, right?
Yeah, guns and violence are ALWAYS the answer, aren't they?
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