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Old 03-06-2015, 05:07 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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MIDLAND, MI (WNEM) - It's a business that sells itself on being non-judgmental but Planet Fitness has allegedly revoked the membership of a woman for complaining.

Yvette Cormier, a member at the Midland location, says she had no idea what that meant until a few days ago.

Read more: Planet Fitness drops member after gender identity complaint - WNEM TV 5
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Old 03-06-2015, 05:33 PM
 
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So a pervert can say he identifies as a woman to go watch women undress or undress in front of women?
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Old 03-06-2015, 05:34 PM
 
Location: Fredericksburg, Va
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OMG....it's not the BUSINESS' problem...it's the one who doesn't know their gender! Figure it out.,live it, and be done with it!
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Old 03-06-2015, 06:31 PM
 
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While I agree with the sentiment of the woman whose membership is revoked.. I do have questions about HOW she complained..

It seemed, if you read between the lines on the story, that it was more the way she complained, than the fact that she complained, that got her membership cancelled.
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Old 03-06-2015, 06:38 PM
 
Location: Central Florida
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So a pervert can say he identifies as a woman to go watch women undress or undress in front of women?
That is my concern as well.
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Old 03-06-2015, 06:54 PM
 
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This issue is being abused. Looks like I boycott Planet Fitness.
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Old 03-06-2015, 07:11 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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While I agree with the sentiment of the woman whose membership is revoked.. I do have questions about HOW she complained..

It seemed, if you read between the lines on the story, that it was more the way she complained, than the fact that she complained, that got her membership cancelled.
Really? Maybe you should quit reading between the lines because you're seeing things that aren't there. PF said over and over in their statement and to the TV troubleshooter that it was the complaint that was the problem, then proceeded to expound on their policy, pointing to the complaint as a violation of their "judgment-free zones."

Had a man (one cannot change one's sex, and accommodating changing "identities" is nuts) dressed as a woman entered a women's restroom, I'd have high-tailed it out of there, too. And, contrary to what Davenport thinks, I wouldn't be thinking that I was the one who needed to be "educated."
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Old 03-06-2015, 08:48 PM
 
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I would just adjust and he would not have seen me again if a woman.I see nothing stopping nay man from going into that particular fanchise of planet fitness really.I go to one but no such problems.
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Old 03-06-2015, 08:56 PM
 
Location: Sector 001
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What a silly policy by the company. It's the man undressing in the woman's locker room claiming he has a gender identity crisis that should have his membership booted.

Go into the locker room of the sex you genetically are. Our culture has not advanced to the point where transgender in a public place like this is acceptable and/or the norm. If it causes discomfort in others in such a direct manner it should be addressed. Then again the same could be said about a black person and they have every right to be there so maybe I'm the one who still has a prejudice towards transgender people (I admit that)

I'm all for doing that kind of stuff in your personal life or in private, but not in locker rooms/nude beaches or other public places.
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Old 03-06-2015, 11:23 PM
 
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Really? Maybe you should quit reading between the lines because you're seeing things that aren't there. PF said over and over in their statement and to the TV troubleshooter that it was the complaint that was the problem, then proceeded to expound on their policy, pointing to the complaint as a violation of their "judgment-free zones."

Had a man (one cannot change one's sex, and accommodating changing "identities" is nuts) dressed as a woman entered a women's restroom, I'd have high-tailed it out of there, too. And, contrary to what Davenport thinks, I wouldn't be thinking that I was the one who needed to be "educated."
No, I don't think I want to start just making judgments based on my first reaction to reading a story. I want to apply some critical thinking and understand it and question it rather than blindly accepting spoon feeding of my news.

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The company told TV5 that Cormier's concerns about the policy regarding gender identity was inappropriate and disruptive by complaining to other members at the gym.
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In expressing her concerns about the policy, the member in question exhibited behavior that club management deemed inappropriate and disruptive to other members, which is a violation of the membership agreement and as a result her membership was ccanceled"
Now.. The quote there.. "In expressing her concerns.." does that mean simply BECAUSE she expressed her concerns, or does it mean the METHOD she expressed her concerns? Taking the two above quotes together, it would seem to be the latter.

And.. From another story on it..

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Cormier says she is not interested in having her gym membership reinstated. Rather she wants to warn other women about the gym’s policy, which she says was not explained to her prior to the incident. She tells WNEM that she has no issue with the LGBT community and fully understands the issue surrounding gender identity. Cormier explains that the physical appearance of the transgender woman in the locker room simply caught her off guard.
If it 'simply caught her off guard'.. Then why did she complain to other members, management and corporate? If she's so understanding.. Why did she complain so much?

And, why would she have this quote if she was 'simply caught off guard'?

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"This is very unprofessional. This is very scary," continues Cormier.

I actually totally agree with the woman so far as her concerns.. However, I think we'll be seeing more details that come out about this that will make this more complex than "She politely complained and was kicked out". I think the details may indicate that she did something akin to screaming through the building about it or something along those lines.
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