Heart recipient, 17, dies in high-speed police chase crash he was nearly denied transplant because of bad behavior.

[uggabugga]

Originally Posted by Californian34

The donor would be just as dead no matter who he/she gave their heart to. don't be silly.

no one claimed it would magically bring the donor back to life. that's just you being silly.

Originally Posted by Californian34

so you're saying they'd rather just have it rot?

if the alternative was to use it to power a thug to on a rampage shooting old women and mowing down pedestrians?

absolutely.

[Opin_Yunated]

Originally Posted by October_Pumpkin

The medical establishment has to make life-and-death decisions based on something. The person who will live the longest is the best choice for an organ transplant. Criminals are not long for this world. I see nothing immoral about taking someone's character into account when making these decisions.

Doctors need to be replaced by robots then, with AI.

Robots don't make emotional decisions. They will make the statistical calculation.

Originally Posted by October_Pumpkin

I'm not a right winger at all. Highly liberal in fact. But as an RN I've seen my fair share of human trash. Organs need to go to people who will live a good life. Organs should not go to people who will continue to live a life that will harm others.

You don't have the right to determine that.

Originally Posted by Listener2307

2% per year. If that is the case, then wouldn't it be the case that 100% of Black men commit a crime in 50 years, which, coincidently, is a little less than the life expectancy for Black men?

Opinionated, meet Informed.

You need to take a statistics class. This is pathetic.

Originally Posted by suzy_q2010

Ermm, no.

You are assuming it's a different 2% every year.

First year: 2%. Next year: some of the same folks from last year, minus some who did not re-offend, plus some new ones.

Correct. Please inform him.

Originally Posted by suzy_q2010

In the US, the lifetime risk that a black male will actually serve time is about 1 in 3. For white men it's about 1 in 17, and for Latinos about 1 in 6. Those figures are from a study done some time ago, but I cannot find anything more recent.

http://bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/Llgsfp.pdf

Might we add... most of those crimes are not violent crime. Drug possession counts as a crime. It is the most popular among black males.

[Opin_Yunated]

Originally Posted by uggabugga

if the alternative was to use it to power a thug to on a rampage shooting old women and mowing down pedestrians?

You don't get to make that decision. This is a God complex.

[uggabugga]

Originally Posted by Opin_Yunated

You don't get to make that decision.

where did I claim that I got to make that decision?

oh, that's right. I didn't

This is a God complex.

why do you feel that medical professionals whose job it is to decide how a transplant should be best used have a 'god complex'?

[vision33r]

Darwin still wins.

[uggabugga]

Originally Posted by vision33r

Darwin still wins.

yup.

but the old lady who got shot, the pedestrian who got mowed down, and the more deserving person needing a heart transplant all lost.

[trishguard]

This kid got a second chance to terrorize the community and harm others before killing himself.

[shadowne]

Originally Posted by Opin_Yunated

You believe in playing God?

You don't have the right to decide that, especially based on "character." That's immoral.

"immoral" is pretty much everything that young criminal did.

[BradPiff]

Comments in threads like this are the reason I always laugh when they say America is a "christian" country

[MJJersey]

Originally Posted by BradPiff

Comments in threads like this are the reason I always laugh when they say America is a "christian" country

Why is that?