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Old 04-01-2015, 11:56 PM
 
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So much for a second chance.
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Old 04-02-2015, 02:11 AM
 
Location: Purgatory
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So he was about 15 at the time of the transfer.....

What peeves me is many kids being BOTH the ADULT AND CHILD waiting lists.

This pretty much ensures a child transplant before an adult. And thats just not right.
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Old 04-02-2015, 02:34 AM
 
Location: Tucson, AZ
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Well the cops are clearly to blame. Had they not chased him.... he could have died a few years later... in a robbery attempt gone wrong or beaten to death with a broom stick in prison.

What I'm trying to say is this was inevitable.
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Old 04-02-2015, 02:50 AM
 
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What a total waste. The doctors were guilted and strong-armed into giving this kid a transplant, even though he showed every indication that he wouldn't appreciate it or live a life that honored the donor. If I were a relative of the donor I'd be beyond disgusted. Heck, I'm not even related and I'm disgusted. Someone else who was waiting for that heart may be dead now. What a waste.

Lets hope this incident opens some eyes. I think this incident might have donors making demands on their donations and making sure the person who receives the donation meets a strict criteria.
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Old 04-02-2015, 02:56 AM
 
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The entire field of transplantation brings up huge ethical issues. Who gets to decide whether one person's life is more deserving than another? There have been countless stories of people with heart transplants that continue to eat poor diets and refuse to exercise. There was a story of a guy who received a lung transplant and actually was trying to smoke in his hospital room after the surgery.

As a society, are we going to monitor every organ recipient to make sure they are living a life that other people decide for them? Are we going to take away their choice and free will? Are we going to have them sign contracts stating they will never do anything wrong ever again? Who wold monitor or enforce such a contract?

Every organ recipient has not been a saint.


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Yes, but that would not be politically or culturally Sensitive .

Facebook post from the Atlanta TV reporter who covered the story two years ago:

https://www.facebook.com/JovitaMoore...type=1&theater
It's not about political correctness at all. See above. Does the gift of an organ allow other people to determine that person's life?

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What a waste. Why is this stuff nearly always young black men? I've never seen such general anger in other groups.
Anger? Just no. What about white people who engaged in colonialism and imperialism? Much more damaging than the acts of a petty criminal.

You can't pen the world's ills on black men.

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Most aren't but a good percentage of black men are involved in crime and mischief. Statistics don't lie no matter how much we can sit here and argue.
Your racial bias and assumptions are showing. Which statistics and do they show the real picture?

I would contend that the actions of the guy in the OP were far less harmful than the acts of someone like Bernie Madoff. Thousands of lives (and families) were ruined by Madoff and those effects will be felt for decades.
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Old 04-02-2015, 03:30 AM
 
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now how were they supposed to know this boy would end his life in such a way?
Did you read the article? You are the 2nd one to ask this question. This individual wouldn't even take the drugs and perform the pre-requirements in order to receive a heart. It was only pressure of the race hucksters that got him a place in line.
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Old 04-02-2015, 03:38 AM
 
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It'd be a dangerous slope to go on for policymakers to even begin judging who is 'worthy' of healthcare.
It would be. But that isn't what happened here.
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Old 04-02-2015, 03:39 AM
 
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I would contend that the actions of the guy in the OP were far less harmful than the acts of someone like Bernie Madoff. Thousands of lives (and families) were ruined by Madoff and those effects will be felt for decades.
A pointless comparison to distract from the issue a hand as was dropping the R-word at least once in your post.
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Old 04-02-2015, 04:06 AM
 
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Am I the only one sick and tired of the ACLU poking their nose into everything?

"But they changed their minds following pressure from civil rights groups and the boy's family, who said he had been stereotyped as a troubled teen"

And they were right! The men and women we are today are the result of our life experiences and behavior up to now. Period. The way we have lived our lives and conducted ourselves every day, results in the blessings or consequences we receive.

Just really sick and tired of "civil rights groups" minding every one else's business.
Did the ACLU really get involved? I know it said civil rights groups, but I didn't see them mentioned specifically. No doubt there are many different civil rights groups.
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Old 04-02-2015, 04:11 AM
 
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Most aren't but a good percentage of black men are involved in crime and mischief. Statistics don't lie no matter how much we can sit here and argue.
There are three kinds of lies: Lies, damned lies, and statistics.
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