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I don't care about your percentages. Give me the whole numbers.
HAHA......so you want someone to tell you what you want to hear vs the "whole numbers" so you can use that as some kind of proof that more crimes are committed overall by whites vs. blacks, huh??
Problem with your simple minded thinking is their are many times more whites than blacks so obviously any number would be higher - could use "whole numbers" to prove whites were "victimized" more too by using your flawed logic......you could use it in fact for anything - that more whites stub their toes, slip on soap, etc.....in any example there would be more whites as a total of everything because there are more whites!
Percentages are the only way to go....as per 2013 Census there are 223+ million white Americans vs. 39 million blacks.....but the PERCENTAGE of each of those groups committing crimes (esp. violent crimes) is greatly higher when it comes to blacks.
You can sugar coat it any way you want but the cold hard facts are undeniable.
So in retrospect do you think he made a wise decision to run?
Without knowing his previous experience with police officers or what this particular officer said or did it is an impossible question to answer correctly.
HAHA......so you want someone to tell you what you want to hear vs the "whole numbers" so you can use that as some kind of proof that more crimes are committed overall by whites vs. blacks, huh??
Problem with your simple minded thinking is their are many times more whites than blacks so obviously any number would be higher - could use "whole numbers" to prove whites were "victimized" more too by using your flawed logic......you could use it in fact for anything - that more whites stub their toes, slip on soap, etc.....in any example there would be more whites as a total of everything because there are more whites!
Percentages are the only way to go....as per 2013 Census there are 223+ million white Americans vs. 39 million blacks.....but the PERCENTAGE of each of those groups committing crimes (esp. violent crimes) is greatly higher when it comes to blacks.
You can sugar coat it any way you want but the cold hard facts are undeniable.
I haven't read all of your posts, but, acknowledging that you're correct that blacks commit violent crimes, etc. at higher rates (and, in some instances, at higher total numbers) than whites, even though blacks are greatly outnumbered by whites in the population, what is your point? At the end of the day, people/perpetrators, committing violent crime whether black or white or other, represent a tiny, tiny fraction of the total black, white, or other population.
Let's take homicide, for instance. In 2005, hardly an untypical year for homicide statistics, there were 7,999 black homicide victims, 93% of whom were killed by other blacks (that's roughly 7,439 blacks killed by other blacks in 2005). Source: A look at statistics on black-on-black murders | PolitiFact Florida.
If, for the sake of argument, we assumed that there was one murderer per victim (though, this likely isn't the case as there are people who kill more than one person each year), there were 7,439 black murderers of other blacks in 2005. Note, I believe the number has gone down since that time period, but, for the sake of argument, let's assume that that number holds true for 2014. We're talking about 0.000165% of the black American population of 45 Million people! Source: http://blackdemographics.com/; US Census estimates for 2013.
What does that percentage tell you, really? Does that give people/police officers reason/cause to be afraid of black males, etc. they encounter walking down the street? I submit that it doesn't. Again, even if we limit things to black males between the age of 16-35, that's still a very, very small percentage of that population. Why should those numbers be an "indictment" against me, one out of the vast and overwhelming majority of young black males who are not out there committing violent crimes? This question takes on an even stronger meaning when we understand that the overwhelming majority of black offenders target black victims (its the same way for every group), yet we don't see black cops gunning down black victims as non-black cops do. The numbers don't lie, but when people read into things that are not warranted, they are guilty of a far worse offense.
HAHA......so you want someone to tell you what you want to hear vs the "whole numbers" so you can use that as some kind of proof that more crimes are committed overall by whites vs. blacks, huh??
Problem with your simple minded thinking is their are many times more whites than blacks so obviously any number would be higher - could use "whole numbers" to prove whites were "victimized" more too by using your flawed logic......you could use it in fact for anything - that more whites stub their toes, slip on soap, etc.....in any example there would be more whites as a total of everything because there are more whites!
Percentages are the only way to go....as per 2013 Census there are 223+ million white Americans vs. 39 million blacks.....but the PERCENTAGE of each of those groups committing crimes (esp. violent crimes) is greatly higher when it comes to blacks.
You can sugar coat it any way you want but the cold hard facts are undeniable.
What the hell does this have to do with a cop shooting an unarmed civilian???
Which would make the number of blacks shot and killed by white police officers what exactly? 0.0000000001% Yet we have endless media coverage every time it happens and riots and protests galore.
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Originally Posted by prospectheightsresident
If, for the sake of argument, we assumed that there was one murderer per victim (though, this likely isn't the case as there are people who kill more than one person each year), there were 7,439 black murderers of other blacks in 2005. Note, I believe the number has gone down since that time period, but, for the sake of argument, let's assume that that number holds true for 2014. We're talking about 0.000165% of the black American population of 45 Million people! Source: http://blackdemographics.com/; US Census estimates for 2013.
It's really ridiculous that people want to blame the murdered man for the actions of a murderer and try to act like this doesn't matter just because cops are so rarely charged with murdering black men.
Which would make the number of blacks shot and killed by white police officers what exactly? 0.0000000001% Yet we have endless media coverage every time it happens and riots and protests galore.
The point of your post in response to mine is? I responded to a specific and flawed post/argument by a member of the forum. Take your argument up with Al Sharpton and Company, not me. Indeed, you haven't seen me make a similar argument in the forum (if anything, I've made a similar point to the one you're making many times before in the forum).
What does that percentage tell you, really? Does that give people/police officers reason/cause to be afraid of black males, etc. they encounter walking down the street? I submit that it doesn't. Again, even if we limit things to black males between the age of 16-35, that's still a very, very small percentage of that population. Why should those numbers be an "indictment" against me, one out of the vast and overwhelming majority of young black males who are not out there committing violent crimes? This question takes on an even stronger meaning when we understand that the overwhelming majority of black offenders target black victims (its the same way for every group), yet we don't see black cops gunning down black victims as non-black cops do. The numbers don't lie, but when people read into things that are not warranted, they are guilty of a far worse offense.
Your numbers might be correct, but the problem is you're looking at THE WRONG NUMBERS. Of course if you look at TOTAL crime numbers, ANYTHING will look good. 6000-7000 murders among some 45 million blacks sounds pretty good doesn't it? BUT if look at the per capita numbers. THAT'S when you see why black crime is so significant.
The US national average murder rate is like 4.7 per 100,000 people
The white murder rate in the US is like 2.3 per 100,000 people or HALF of the national average
The black murder rate in the US is like 15 per 100,000 people or over THREE TIMES the national average
And that's just for murder and it doesn't include the rates for violent crime which are MUCH higher for blacks as well. AND again it needs to be repeated that there are some 245 MILLION white Americans or 5 TIMES the population of black Americans and yet they STILL murder and get murdered at a much lower rate than blacks do. Can you imagine if there were 245 million blacks living in the US vs 45 million whites? The crime and murder in the US would be ridiculously high and we'd be like South Africa right now.
And THAT'S why police as well as most non-blacks are wary of blacks because your chances of being a victim of crime around blacks is much, MUCH higher than when you're around whites or asians or any other non-black group for that matter. It doesn't matter if you're white or black or asian yourself, if you live or hang around any area that has a significant concentration of blacks, you better be careful or else you could be a victim of crime or worse injured or dead.
That doesn't mean all blacks are bad and violent, but the thing is how can you tell which one is good and which is one is bad and would do you harm? Its not like criminals and thugs have signs around their necks stating that they might hurt you. So when you ask why all blacks should suffer for the actions of the violent and criminal ones, the answer is too many blacks have committed too much crime, especially random crime and its better to be wary of them than to let your guard down and pay for it.
Obviously if you see a black person working at the local Starbucks, I think its safe to say you can relax around him/her and trust they wouldn't do you harm. But if non-blacks are wary around blacks, don't blame them if they think that way. Blame your fellow blacks for ruining it for all the good black people out there by reinforcing the stereotypes of blacks every single damn day. If blacks cared about their image, they would've raised their kids right and ratted out all the thugs in their neighborhoods long ago so that they're safe to live and raise kids in. But apparently too many blacks are either too lazy and/or not incapble of doing so and that's why crime among black families and communities is a generational issue and it will forever remain that way.
So, has anyone noticed that the officer's back up was black - that he just stood there while the shooter planted evidence and also did not perform CPR????
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