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Just because you have the right to do something doesn't mean you have to do it. First, she was wrong. She's practically getting in their face with the camera and taunting them. The right thing to do is what the person behind the camera filming all this did. Stay back a safe distance and not interfere with the officers. The right thing for the officers to do is slap the cuffs on her and put her in the car detaining her for her own safety sice she was refusing to back away. The cop in the video lost his cool and may loose his job. She antagonized the cops and one of the cops took the bait. Personally I hope the cop only gets a suspension and training before returning back to work.
For the anti-cop crowd, by her being so close to the crime scene involving a drug dealing biker gang she is putting herself in danger. By her repeating she has a right to be there, that says she was told to get back away. There's also the possibility she could have been one of the gang's ladies. It's at that point that someone could have slapped the cuffs on her and detain her. Sure the bear lost his cool. But before handing out his prison sentence, perhaps we should find out what that bear cop just got through in the crime scene before he appears on video. True, it doesn't excuse his actions, but it could speak to his state of mind and explain his actions, things that play a part in criminal sentencing.
To the cop watchers/haters, just because you have a right to be a douche doesn't mean you must be a douche!
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Originally Posted by victimofGM
For the anti-cop crowd, by her being so close to the crime scene involving a drug dealing biker gang she is putting herself in danger. By her repeating she has a right to be there, that says she was told to get back away. There's also the possibility she could have been one of the gang's ladies. It's at that point that someone could have slapped the cuffs on her and detain her. Sure the bear lost his cool. But before handing out his prison sentence, perhaps we should find out what that bear cop just got through in the crime scene before he appears on video. True, it doesn't excuse his actions, but it could speak to his state of mind and explain his actions, things that play a part in criminal sentencing.
To the cop watchers/haters, just because you have a right to be a douche doesn't mean you must be a douche!
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Since she was very upset that the biker gang was being arrested, more than likely she has ties with them, or, she's such a moron that she doesn't care that the gang, who are known for being very brutal, lives in her neighborhood.
She's already talked to a lawyer about suing the city and the officers (not just the one who grabbed her phone)
You don't know if she was one of the biker's chicks, a neighbor, somebody walking down the street... (or do you??)
Also, the situation did not justify what happened. If she was breaking the law, detain and/or give her a ticket. That's the officer's job. There were multiple officers there. Do your job.
Just because someone else is breaking the law doesn't mean I have the right to. Back to basics people.
For the anti-cop crowd, by her being so close to the crime scene involving a drug dealing biker gang she is putting herself in danger.
So you are saying the cop smashed her phone, because he was concerned with her safety?
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Originally Posted by victimofGM
By her repeating she has a right to be there, that says she was told to get back away.
She did have a right to be there. If she did not have a right to be there the marshal would have arrested her. He would not have smashed her phone.
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Originally Posted by victimofGM
There's also the possibility she could have been one of the gang's ladies. It's at that point that someone could have slapped the cuffs on her and detain her.
If that was the case, he would have detained her. He would not have smashed her phone. Lots of people were detained there, she was not one of them.
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Originally Posted by victimofGM
Sure the bear lost his cool. But before handing out his prison sentence, perhaps we should find out what that bear cop just got through in the crime scene before he appears on video. True, it doesn't excuse his actions, but it could speak to his state of mind and explain his actions, things that play a part in criminal sentencing.
There was no crime scene. Do you see any crime scene tape? No, because there was no crime scene. The only crime committed there was the cop who destroyed the woman's property.
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Originally Posted by victimofGM
To the cop watchers/haters, just because you have a right to be a douche doesn't mean you must be a douche!
And this has what to do with anything? Do you understand that the First Amendment protects ALL types of speech?
What the heck is she doing standing just a few feet away from cops who were at the ready to help other cops that were arresting members of a biker gang? She was distracting them from the situation between the other cops and the biker gang, not only by being so close to them but also by yapping away at them the whole time she was standing there.
I could hear a little bit of what she was saying .. "I have a right to be here" (they must have told her to get back, out of the way), and, "you need to stay away from (?)" (dog barked right at the end of that last sentence--but sounds like she's trying to give orders to the cops).
She's lucky she didn't get hauled in for obstruction.
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I agree that people have a right to film, but they don't have the right to place themselves in harms way to film, or, to continuously run their mouth while the cops are trying to be focused on the situation.
Are you kidding me? You cannot be arrested or assaulted for saying things to the police while something is going on down the block and you certainly can't have your property destroyed for saying things to them. Stop making excuses for bad cops. Most cops aren't terrible at their jobs but some of them are.
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Looks like someone will be getting a new cell phone. They should have arrested her for interference. Odd how someone off in the distance just happened to be recording her, record them.
Why do you want to live in a police state? Do you like being oppressed and your rights trampled upon?
Do most Americans even fear crime? It seems like the ones screaming the loudest about people bringing these issues up, live in the safest neighborhoods.
Not saying we live in Europe or Canada, but most neighborhoods are safe.
Do most Americans even fear crime? It seems like the ones screaming the loudest about people bringing these issues up, live in the safest neighborhoods.
Not saying we live in Europe or Canada, but most neighborhoods are safe.
A lot of other people have been screaming about these issues for *decades*. The difference now is that:
1. More of these incidents are being caught on video, which prevents cops from pretending that said incidents never happened.
2. Middle class caucasians are being caught up in some of the blowback from these incidents. A bad cop who has spent months or years abusing their authority in a poor neighborhood will probably not have to deliberate long about doing it in a white collar neighborhood if they think that they can get away with it.
I'll all for heightened scrutiny of law enforcement officers and harsher punishments when they break the laws. I am also for heightened compensation for officers who perform their job properly and responsibly.
Just because you have the right to do something doesn't mean you have to do it. First, she was wrong. She's practically getting in their face with the camera and taunting them. The right thing to do is what the person behind the camera filming all this did. Stay back a safe distance and not interfere with the officers. The right thing for the officers to do is slap the cuffs on her and put her in the car detaining her for her own safety sice she was refusing to back away. The cop in the video lost his cool and may loose his job. She antagonized the cops and one of the cops took the bait. Personally I hope the cop only gets a suspension and training before returning back to work.
Your apologist agenda is sickening.
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