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Its time for every civilian to attach high tech cameras on their person and in their cars, film and record EVERYTHING. If someone in law enforcement sees you, they should also see your camera. Running.
Smile pretty for the camera.
Yeah...no.
I've never had a run-in with law enforcement. Come to think of it, neither has anyone in our large family or any of our friends.
This officer's conduct was unprofessional and unacceptable. If he has a problem with the woman's actions then either arrest her if she is breaking the law or have a dialogue with her in order to get her to behave differently. Reacting aggressively and destroying property is not the way to interact with the public. This is one of the reasons so many people are now distrustful of police officers. Wearing a badge is not a license to act with impunity.
Because police kill people when they are not properly trained
Police kill people when they're properly trained. It isn't one thing or the other and a college education won't make a bit of difference. Hotheads won't stop being hotheads because they went to university for a few years.
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Are you serious? Military Academy is four years.
The hell does the Military Academy have to do with MPs?
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I said "military officers, certainly receive a lot more training then any police officer does."
...are you trying to save face or do you actually think every officer in the military serves in a law enforcement capacity?
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You're making stuff up. I just Googled "10 foot law" and there is no such thing anywhere. Not most places, not anywhere.
You think that you or any bystander would have legal right, as a citizen, to just walk up to where the biker gang was being held on the lawn in front of that house?
A 'yes' answer to that question would be an ignorant answer.
A 'no' answer to that question would mean that the answerer recognizes that there are laws regarding boundaries set by the police in this or any other situation.
So, which answer do you choose?
As for the comment of mine that you responded to, I did a poor job in phrasing that comment and I do apologize. *Boundary line limits are determined by the focal point and spread outward. The distance of the boundary does depend on the circumstances, and, by the judgement of the person who sets the boundary--in this case the things were contained to a somewhat small area, so the boundary size would be somewhere around 10' (which would probably be the area size set in most places). If the bikers had run, had shot weapons, had set off an explosive device, etc., then the boundary line area would be greater.
*as explained to me when I asked a friend who is an instructor for the police, and, just because I have a friend who is an instructor does not mean that I have blinders on when cops do the wrong thing--just like I don't have blinders on when a bystander acts like a moron.
P.S. his 'opinion' was that the officer probably did have the right to arrest the woman, since she was distracting him while the operation was live, but that he didn't because he was giving her a pass, much like some officers do when they stop a speeder and then let them go (give them a pass) without being ticketed. (edited to add, this is regarding the officers actions, not the marshals)
You think that you or any bystander would have legal right, as a citizen, to just walk up to where the biker gang was being held on the lawn in front of that house?
A 'yes' answer to that question would be an ignorant answer.
A 'no' answer to that question would mean that the answerer recognizes that there are laws regarding boundaries set by the police in this or any other situation.
So, which answer do you choose?
Yes, you have a legal right as an America citizen to walk up to were a biker gang is being help by the police, as long as it's in a public area. It's not ignorance, it's knowing what your rights are.
The fact that you make up imaginary laws against it, doesn't make it illegal.
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Yes, you have a legal right as an America citizen to walk up to were a biker gang is being help by the police, as long as it's in a public area. It's not ignorance, it's knowing what your rights are.
The fact that you make up imaginary laws against it, doesn't make it illegal.
You think that you or any bystander would have legal right, as a citizen, to just walk up to where the biker gang was being held on the lawn in front of that house?
A 'yes' answer to that question would be an ignorant answer.
A 'no' answer to that question would mean that the answerer recognizes that there are laws regarding boundaries set by the police in this or any other situation.
So, which answer do you choose?
It's either a law and exists on the books or it's not. Which do you choose?
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As for the comment of mine that you responded to, I did a poor job in phrasing that comment and I do apologize. *Boundary line limits are determined by the focal point and spread outward. The distance of the boundary does depend on the circumstances, and, by the judgement of the person who sets the boundary--in this case the things were contained to a somewhat small area, so the boundary size would be somewhere around 10' (which would probably be the area size set in most places). If the bikers had run, had shot weapons, had set off an explosive device, etc., then the boundary line area would be greater.
Proof. Provide it or stop posting.
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P.S. his 'opinion' was that the officer probably did have the right to arrest the woman, since she was distracting him while the operation was live, but that he didn't because he was giving her a pass, much like some officers do when they stop a speeder and then let them go (give them a pass) without being ticketed. (edited to add, this is regarding the officers actions, not the marshals)
Distracting a cop is not a crime. Stop trying to make up laws to justify a bad cop's behavior.
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It's either a law and exists on the books or it's not. Which do you choose?
I would think that my choice was obvious, well, it should be to someone with a brain.
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Proof. Provide it or stop posting.
lol @ your 'stop posting' order, like you have the right to give anyone such an order, yanno, cause you're a mod and all. bwahaha
I provided my source if that isn't good enough for you then expand your horizons by doing your own search.
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Distracting a cop is not a crime.
If that's what you want to believe.
Go for it, I dare you.
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Stop trying to make up laws to justify a bad cop's behavior.
*Yawn* Seems to be the lame 'catch phrase of the day' for folks who hate all cops (you can't even come up with something original on your own, meh)
I would think that my choice was obvious, well, it should be to someone with a brain.
lol @ your 'stop posting' order, like you have the right to give anyone such an order, yanno, cause you're a mod and all. bwahaha
I provided my source if that isn't good enough for you then expand your horizons by doing your own search.
If that's what you want to believe.
Go for it, I dare you.
*Yawn* Seems to be the lame 'catch phrase of the day' for folks who hate all cops (you can't even come up with something original on your own, meh)
You're a total forum troll cliche. You make up stupid crap then tell other people to disprove it. You make strawman arguments to distract from your own argument's obvious shortcomings. You try to act as though you're intellectually superior despite already making yourself look like a fool. And you used the ridiculous "Well my uncle..." trope to defend your made up BS. Oh, do you know a training officer?
You lost this argument. Period.
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You're a total forum troll cliche. You make up stupid crap then tell other people to disprove it. You make strawman arguments to distract from your own argument's obvious shortcomings. You try to act as though you're intellectually superior despite already making yourself look like a fool. And you used the ridiculous "Well my uncle..." trope to defend your made up BS. Oh, do you know a training officer?
You lost this argument. Period.
What ever gets you through the night.
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