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This was just more murders by cops! Second only to the last Waco massacre by cops where they slaughtered men, women and children of the Branch Davidians. All of you posters can whine about thug this and thug that, but I'd bet that cops instigated the whole thing. Everybody that got killed was shot by the police! But carry on with the usual BS. Why care about what really happened?
Your post went right over the heads of all of these posters cheering the murders of these 9. Seems like to most here, riding a bike and wearing a vest equals criminal! Never mind that one of the clubs present was a Christian club. Another was the Vietnam Vets. The thugs present in Waco were all wearing badges. The only people that killed anybody were cops! Does nobody find it strange that some 20 cops and a SWAT team were there before these folks even met?
Most here rush to judgement without giving a damn about facts! Carry on with your stupid BS, but the same thugs that murdered women and children in Waco back in the 90s murdered more Americans in Waco yesterday!
You keep spewing this garbage - please show the proof that this is true.
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Originally Posted by SpencerMtn This was just more murders by cops! Second only to the last Waco massacre by cops where they slaughtered men, women and children of the Branch Davidians. All of you posters can whine about thug this and thug that, but I'd bet that cops instigated the whole thing. Everybody that got killed was shot by the police! But carry on with the usual BS. Why care about what really happened?
I'm starting to wonder about this line of reasoning as well, as from what i see on the media cops have become just another gang of heavily armed ruthless thugs. The getting together of half a dozen rival biker gangs in one place just doesnt sound like something biker gangs would do in a case like this.
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When the restaurant refused to ban the Confederation of Clubs, police stationed at least 22 cops including ten Swat officers from the Waco P.D. and the Texas Department of Public Safety in the parking lot outside the restaurant.
The shove in the bathroom became a scuffle in the restaurant. When about 30 Bandidos, Cossacks, Scimitars and other bikers spilled into the parking between the Twin peaks and the Don Carlos Mexican restaurant next door, the police were waiting for them. . When one of the combatants produced a gun the Swat team opened fire with automatic weapons. Multiple sources have told The Aging Rebel that all of the dead were killed by police.
Sick of hearing about this incident on the news. Bunch of Texan hicks acting like they're still living in the Wild West.
You're absolutely right. Biker violence only happens in hick Southern states. You just don't see that in enlightened urban and liberal places like California or say Canada.
You're absolutely right. Biker violence only happens in hick Southern states. You just don't see that in enlightened urban and liberal places like California or say Canada.
Well considering Texas is now an open-carry state, I don't think we'll see it to the same degree there, or at least an incident quite like this one. Pretty much the hallmark of the wild wild west is people walking around wearing holsters and guns.
The problem with that line of thinking is bullets don't magically stop at the parking lot perimeter, they travel on until something gets in their way.
Having been on the periphery of a couple 1% groups years ago and having friends who were members I would avoid any area where the 1%'ers are as I know what can happen in an instant.
Not all patch wearing leather vested bikers are bad, one way to quickly spot "the good from the not so good" is simply by looking at the patch.
If it's a 3 piece patch, top rocker,main patch,bottom rocker all separate then it's a "sanctioned" (Outlaw) group.
If it's a one piece patch their just a group not a "gang".
Mmm hmmm. And only three piece can claim "territory", which they show on the bottom rocker. Thus, ...misunderstandings...tend to happen twixt MCs. Had a bellyful of that world too. "Friends" that were patched. Thing to remember, about patch wearers, they are not your friend, unless you're wearing that same patch. Any history you had before the patch is nothing.
Well considering Texas is now an open-carry state, I don't think we'll see it to the same degree there, or at least an incident quite like this one.
Your phrasing left the meaning of this sentence a bit ambiguous. I will assume that by "I don't think we'll see it to the same degree there" that you mean we won't see that degree of biker violence in California or Canada. Is that correct? If so read on ... if not then don't.
I expressly picked California and Canada as examples of places that don't fit the left's narrative of "(Biker) crime is most likely to occur in hick places like Texas where gun laws promote a lawless Wild West environment." That's a pretty darn good blend of you and UrbanCrossroads' positions. It's also a really hack little nugget of belief in the lefty's dogma so it's pretty familiar. You're speaking from a script .. you do realize that, right? I picked those locations expressly to rub UC's nose in the ignorant irony of their statement. You appear to falling into the same trap.
Are you not aware that the first chapters of the Hell's Angels came from Fontana, San Francisco and Oakland California? Do you think they got their rep by being boy scouts there? Shall we correlate this to gun control laws? I think we all know California has had some of the most restrictive in the country so you fail. I also picked Canada because it was the site of what's called the "Bandido Massacre" of 2006. Strict gun laws in Canada too, eh? Also a fail for the narrative y'all are trying so hard to hold together.
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Pretty much the hallmark of the wild wild west is people walking around wearing holsters and guns.
Uh no. The hallmark of Wild West violence was LAWLESSNESS not the open carry of firearms. You people just seem utterly incapable of grasping the concept that criminals don't care about your gun laws. They'll be criminals no matter what. Be it in California, Canada or Texas. Is there a math and statistics dysfunction in the liberal mind, I wonder? Can liberals not grasp the concept of a correlation coefficient? That if you plot gun violence against gun control laws it's a scatter plot ... i.e. no correlation? It gets so old arguing this with people who feel their way to a conclusion instead of thinking their way there. It's like arguing with religious faithful.
Your phrasing left the meaning of this sentence a bit ambiguous. I will assume that by "I don't think we'll see it to the same degree there" that you mean we won't see that degree of biker violence in California or Canada. Is that correct? If so read on ... if not then don't.
I expressly picked California and Canada as examples of places that don't fit the left's narrative of "(Biker) crime is most likely to occur in hick places like Texas where gun laws promote a lawless Wild West environment." That's a pretty darn good blend of you and UrbanCrossroads' positions. It's also a really hack little nugget of belief in the lefty's dogma so it's pretty familiar. You're speaking from a script .. you do realize that, right? I picked those locations expressly to rub UC's nose in the ignorant irony of their statement. You appear to falling into the same trap.
Are you not aware that the first chapters of the Hell's Angels came from Fontana, San Francisco and Oakland California? Do you think they got their rep by being boy scouts there? Shall we correlate this to gun control laws? I think we all know California has had some of the most restrictive in the country so you fail. I also picked Canada because it was the site of what's called the "Bandido Massacre" of 2006. Strict gun laws in Canada too, eh? Also a fail for the narrative y'all are trying so hard to hold together.
Uh no. The hallmark of Wild West violence was LAWLESSNESS not the open carry of firearms. You people just seem utterly incapable of grasping the concept that criminals don't care about your gun laws. They'll be criminals no matter what. Be it in California, Canada or Texas. Is there a math and statistics dysfunction in the liberal mind, I wonder? Can liberals not grasp the concept of a correlation coefficient? That if you plot gun violence against gun control laws it's a scatter plot ... i.e. no correlation? It gets so old arguing this with people who feel their way to a conclusion instead of thinking their way there. It's like arguing with religious faithful.
By not to that degree is that they will probably not be huge numbers of them in a public bar in a strip mall in broad daylight all carrying guns on their hips. By hallmark, I meant the picture that comes to people's mind when they think of the term "wild, wild west".
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