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The hackers have blood on their hands. What they did was beyond reckless, and pure evil.
And don't talk to me about the pain of cheating. I know firsthand the devastation that cheating cause in marriages. Still, those defending the despicable acts of these hackers are not right in the head. Or their heart.
This hacking has opened a pandora's box of outcomes that could span many, many years and dare I say, generations of strife. We will not begin to know. Already two people have killed themselves. I wonder what extortion cases may occur that could put our country's security in danger? Or any of a myriad side effects.
Wake up, people. The world does not evolve around you and your pains or biases. Hate cheaters all you want, but defending this reckless act makes you potentially worse than a cheater. Countless movies and classic novels have been made and written about the haunting and regret that "revenge seekers" and vigilantists experience, but some people never learn.
I don't see what this hack is supposed to do. All it does is reveal whether or not you ever went on the website (you have to sign up with an e-mail address to see anything.) It doesn't display any type of history or monetary transactions. Some people have their e-mail address listed in the database but never used the services, nor were ever interested in them. In my case, I once went on there out of mere curiosity to see what type of people signed up for these things, and if some were dumb enough to upload pictures there. I've never believed in online dating and very much think it's pathetic (my opinion, and to each his/her own.)
Those getting upset that their e-mail pops up in a database of 35+million accounts need to quit with the self-pity party.
This hacking has opened a pandora's box of outcomes that could span many, many years and dare I say, generations of strife. We will not begin to know. Already two people have killed themselves. I wonder what extortion cases may occur that could put our country's security in danger? Or any of a myriad side effects.
The world does not evolve around you and your pains or biases.
Countless movies and classic novels have been made and written about the haunting and regret that "revenge seekers" and vigilantists experience, but some people never learn.
Its no big deal to most folks. They have nothing to hide on that site, so why would anyone care what those people do. Its not like they didn't make their own choices. As far as putting the Countries Security in Danger, that's so far fetched that Martians would be spotted fishing at your local dock first. In life, you make your own choices and live with them.
I don't know about other people, but my World does some what revolve around my own Pains and Biases. If you don't look out for your own interests no one else will.
As far as Movies and Novels go, most of us live in reality, but using your examples, countless of both have been made about the self satisfaction of revenge and vigilantism. so its irrelevant. I have as much sympathy for the exposed site as I would a Porn site, or one that exploits kids.
Actually, it may make some Honest people out of some that have seen wha can happen and decide against this sort of thing.
B. Prove that they were in an exclusive relationship at the time
Well.. "B" will be proven by their SO, if there is one.
A.. There's several methods we can use for that.. First off.. Multiple CC transactions would indicate 'activity'.. Does not indicate they were having an affair, but it indicates activity.
Second, two of the fields in the data dump are "When was record created" and "When was record last changed", and.. I don't have it in front of me, but one of the tables had a "Last visited" date, if I recall. So.. That can certainly point to 'activity'.
Again.. My opinion.. I think round 4 will be communication between users. It'll likely be the last of the data to be released, because it'll be HUGE. But, let's take this forum for example.. There are 3 SQL database tables that contain Private Messages (Direct Messages, whatever vB calls them. I worked for IPB, which is the main competitor to the software this forum uses for 6 years or so).. messages_topic contains the title of the PM along with who started it, how many people are involved in it, last reply date, etc.. message_topic_user_map contains a link to the message_topic table for each user involved in the PM and whether it has been deleted or not.. message_text contains the actual text of the message.
I would say that AM worked along similar lines.. If they got everything.. Then they got the PM tables as well.. It's going to be REAL hard to plead innocence or that "I was just curious" if that data is leaked, and there's 50 messages back and forth between you and some other user. Trustify is already charging money to search through the data that has been released, which means all the profile data and so on, that can be used to hang someone.. I haven't even gone through and translated what all the "Looking for" and "Interested in" tables in the database mean.. Somewhere on their website, they had radio boxes that you checked that corresponded to a number to indicate what you were 'looking for'.
The long and short is.. Anyone who signed up for an account there should be prepared for anything that they said or did on there to be made public.
What I have had to look for.. Anyone who accessed the site from work or used a work email address to access the site. Either of those is a violation of policy and grounds for termination. So far, they haven't decided what to do with them. Whether they were having an affair or not is irrelevant. I don't think any of them are going to be terminated. There will be repercussions, but not up to termination. The "mucks" want all relevant data, though in order to make their decision.
Again, I don't find what the hackers did right.. If they're caught, they should be prosecuted. The same as if someone hacked into any other company. They don't deserve any more or any less punishment because it was AM they hacked. In ways, I do have some sympathy for the people affected by what they did.. But, I don't blame the hackers for what the users of the site are going through now because they made the choice to sign up for the site.
The hackers have blood on their hands. What they did was beyond reckless, and pure evil.
And don't talk to me about the pain of cheating. I know firsthand the devastation that cheating cause in marriages. Still, those defending the despicable acts of these hackers are not right in the head. Or their heart.
This hacking has opened a pandora's box of outcomes that could span many, many years and dare I say, generations of strife. We will not begin to know. Already two people have killed themselves. I wonder what extortion cases may occur that could put our country's security in danger? Or any of a myriad side effects.
Wake up, people. The world does not evolve around you and your pains or biases. Hate cheaters all you want, but defending this reckless act makes you potentially worse than a cheater. Countless movies and classic novels have been made and written about the haunting and regret that "revenge seekers" and vigilantists experience, but some people never learn.
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
Just because you are entitled to privacy, doesn't mean you should assume you should get it.
Just because it is illegal to rob someone someone, doesn't mean you should assume you won't get robbed.
Did these people really join an affair website thinking there was no chance of anyone ever knowing? Someone can ALWAYS found out what you are doing on the internet. It could be the website owner, your ISP, or anyone who is technology advanced to find out.
Don't drive 100 MPH on the freeway if you don't want a speeding ticket.
Hacking is a crime, a fact and beyond question. It doesn't matter if it is moral or not, it is a crime. It is being dealt with as a crime and as time goes by, the hackers will find themselves with less and less support. When they are caught, they'll reap the rewards because no one will be offering them jobs. The hackers were upset because no one paid them any attention. Whaawhaaa. Oh, and lets not forget, if the action taken against them doesn't take a lot of effort then it isn't serious so hopefully the effort will be signifiant.
Very few hackers ever get caught. Its a culture of its own, and the good ones are too smart to get caught, since they manipulate the same system the Law uses, and know it a hundred fold better than the establishment does. Even a mediocre "User" can be anonymous on Internet, and untraceable, today, with all the free wifi out there. That's even without "spoofing" your ID or using multiple servers in Countries the US has no power in and no cooperation.
Just because you are entitled to privacy, doesn't mean you should assume you should get it.
Just because it is illegal to rob someone someone, doesn't mean you should assume you won't get robbed.
Did these people really join an affair website thinking there was no chance of anyone ever knowing? Someone can ALWAYS found out what you are doing on the internet. It could be the website owner, your ISP, or anyone who is technology advanced to find out.
Don't drive 100 MPH on the freeway if you don't want a speeding ticket.
Thing is, they were not driving at 100mph on the freeway. All we know is that they were thinking of doing so. Some may actually have done so but we don't know that. And we don't give speeding tickets to people who only think about exceeding the limit.
Very few hackers ever get caught. Its a culture of its own, and the good ones are too smart to get caught, since they manipulate the same system the Law uses, and know it a hundred fold better than the establishment does. Even a mediocre "User" can be anonymous on Internet, and untraceable, today, with all the free wifi out there. That's even without "spoofing" your ID or using multiple servers in Countries the US has no power in and no cooperation.
People who break the law can't be good hackers. Making excuses to justify criminal behavior is a problem some people have because they can't understand the difference between those who decide to be criminals and tgose who don't. If what the hackers dis can be justified or excused then that can be applied to any crime and any criminal.
The hackers have blood on their hands. What they did was beyond reckless, and pure evil.
And don't talk to me about the pain of cheating. I know firsthand the devastation that cheating cause in marriages. Still, those defending the despicable acts of these hackers are not right in the head. Or their heart.
This hacking has opened a pandora's box of outcomes that could span many, many years and dare I say, generations of strife. We will not begin to know. Already two people have killed themselves. I wonder what extortion cases may occur that could put our country's security in danger? Or any of a myriad side effects.
Wake up, people. The world does not evolve around you and your pains or biases. Hate cheaters all you want, but defending this reckless act makes you potentially worse than a cheater. Countless movies and classic novels have been made and written about the haunting and regret that "revenge seekers" and vigilantists experience, but some people never learn.
When they get caught, the wrongful death lawsuits will help insure they don't mingle with society consequence free. You see, there is no doubt that some of the people on whatever lists got distributed aren't the type to run to the police, they will use more direct means and its amazing what happens when such people want to know who did what. The hackers played with fire And the fuse has been lit. I wouldn't want to be any of them.
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