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Makes sense. Sometimes these threads start off with an interesting subject and by the second page the usual suspects enter and muddy the waters. Sometimes there's a racial aspect, sometimes things are just a coincidence, and many more times people spew stereotypes and misinformation without even addressing the facts...
we need to stop blaming the victims for the violence that befalls them.
for there to be social progress ---this needs to stop.
Victim blaming is one of the worst mentalities we have as a society. "Well maybe they should have kept their door locked." "Well maybe they should have kept a gun in the house," "maybe they should check who's outside before answering the door next time."
How about, well maybe people should stop thinking it's okay to break into someone's house, assault them, and/or take their things.
Victim blaming is one of the worst mentalities we have as a society. "Well maybe they should have kept their door locked." "Well maybe they should have kept a gun in the house," "maybe they should check who's outside before answering the door next time."
How about, well maybe people should stop thinking it's okay to break into someone's house, assault them, and/or take their things.
I don't disagree with your last statement. However; our society is full of lowlife idiots, who would seek to harm others. Therefore, one should remain vigilant, and take the necessary precautions to avoid, or minimize such instances so as to not become a victim. BTW that lock on your door only keeps honest people out.
Install a wireless video surveillance camera outside aim it at your front door. They sell them in kits of two cameras and a monitor for around $200 and when motion triggers the camera it's recorded to an SD card. We have one and can see anyone who is at the front door and talk to them by pressing a button on the monitor.
When I was a kid in the 50s and 60s any Oriental adult could correct any oriental child not their own. it's called policing ones own culture for the good of the whole. and it works generally.
There is terrific honor among these people ,a pleasure knowing a doing business with them. I can't say that about many other ethnic groups not even white.
These people have as much right to complain as any one but they have honor. and respect for their elders, even if they are not their own.
The fix to the racial problem is the people them self taking the initiative for adults to stand together and correct their own people's bad behavior and develop some honor and respect .
Standing aside and doing or saying nothing while a person of your own race is making you look bad is actually adding fuel to the fire, the consent of silence. You can't afford to pass the buck and say your not related or his actions don't reflect on you .that's a lie. His actions do reflect on you, "especially" if you don't care.
I have on occasion stopped a talked to young people my own race, and had a talk with them especially if they appeared to be heading for mischief.
It may not seem important that they actually listen ,but that you cared sometimes touches one of them.
I believe that consent by silence, does far more damage.
As for dealing with some one attempting to break in, they have already counted the possibility of loosing their life in the process , that moment of desperation has already got their adrenalin going.
It is sad that with so much media coverage over people arming them selves, you'd think criminals would take the hint but then they can't be too bright either.
But they apparently still have plenty of targets, people derelict at self protection practices, loose morals and lack self worth .
I don't disagree with your last statement. However; our society is full of lowlife idiots, who would seek to harm others. Therefore, one should remain vigilant, and take the necessary precautions to avoid, or minimize such instances so as to not become a victim. BTW that lock on your door only keeps honest people out.
I totally agree. People do need to make sure they remain vigilant to protect themselves, but there's something wrong with questioning the family/victim and not once questioning the criminal (not saying this is happening here, just in general) and calling out their terrible act and motives. Instead of saying, wow what a terrible thing that guy did, he deserves the maximum penalty, you all too frequently see people saying, well perhaps the victim should have been smarter. It's just a backwards way of thinking. Even if someone fails to lock their door or whatever, the blame should never shift to them because at the end of the day, someone else invaded their privacy and committed a crime against them. Yes, there are terrible people out there, this is inevitable, but the real mistake was made by the criminal. Our rights end where others' begin. No one has any right to break into someone's home, assault them, and take their stuff. Even if that front door was unlocked.
I totally agree. People do need to make sure they remain vigilant to protect themselves, but there's something wrong with questioning the family/victim and not once questioning the criminal (not saying this is happening here, just in general) and calling out their terrible act and motives. Instead of saying, wow what a terrible thing that guy did, he deserves the maximum penalty, you all too frequently see people saying, well perhaps the victim should have been smarter. It's just a backwards way of thinking. Even if someone fails to lock their door or whatever, the blame should never shift to them because at the end of the day, someone else invaded their privacy and committed a crime against them. Yes, there are terrible people out there, this is inevitable, but the real mistake was made by the criminal. Our rights end where others' begin. No one has any right to break into someone's home, assault them, and take their stuff. Even if that front door was unlocked.
Which is why I support one's right to have the means to defend themselves. I know the detractors will say, "b-b-b-but... it's just a tv, or it's just jewelery... material things can be replaced." All true. However; how do I know what the intruder's intentions are? I know this... said intruder isn't there just to have coffee, and donuts! In short, and the bottom line is, the intruder should NOT have been there in the first place, and therefore when I hear stories of one getting capped, I really don't have much sympathy for them other than shake my head, and think damn, what a way to waste your life and throw it away over doing dumb s***! I wouldn't say I question the victim about what mistake he/she made, because s*** happens! Now, if it keeps happening, well... then that is a different story. What I do dislike are statements such as "run, hide under the bed, or lock yourself in the closet, and call 911" which is illogical, because in essence you are creating more victims by denying them their means to protect themselves, therefore making them vulnerable to the scumbags in our society. In other words, a lot can happen in a few seconds, and you could be dead by the time the cops get there. Hell, even if you do have the means to protect yourself, you still may end up dead, but it beats not having any means at all!
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