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I suggest you read all the posts before you make snap judgements. It's not primarily about the father's decision quitting his job to be with his child. It's also about his entitlement minded attitude that he should be allowed to do something no one else in the working world is allowed to do. It's about the consideration of his fellow teammates. It's about not letting the kid spend time with others the same age.
The unfavorable consensus goes way beyond the first page but not just for the reasons you are assuming.
1) He's an MLB player. Half the things in their contracts are things that 'no one else in the working world' gets.
2) He didn't claim his contract entitled him to it - he asked, was rejected, and so retired. Really, it's no different that if I won the lottery. Would i keep working? No... but I might tell my employer that if they tripled my salary, cut my hours to 2/week at full (now tripled) pay, gave me 26 weeks of fully-paid vacation each year, and granted me full paid use of the corporate jet for 15 days annually, then I'd stay on. Would they decline? Um... yeah. But then, I have much less to offer than an MLB player. Still, it's not a demand - it's just, essentially, the same as when a team tells a once-great player (maybe he once won an MVP or a Cy Young) who is a shell of his former self to accept reassignment to AAA or be released, changing circumstances have resulted in one side or the other changing the terms by which they're willing to continue the association. The player can get all bent and rail about how arrogant the team is being or the injustice of it all, but it's just business. And vice versa.
3) Mind you, I don't blame the team for turning him down, either. Just like he's applying his own costs/benefits analysis to the situation, so is the team. Again, that's business. Yet people are acting like it's some great affront. Mountains from molehills.
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A large bulk of the baseball season falls during the summer.
And most games are night games (especially during the week). And all the MLB off-days are during the week, not on weekends.
Like I said before, I've never even heard of this guy, nor do I care if he plays or where, but I am fascinated by how worked up people have gotten.
I suggest you read all the posts before you make snap judgements. It's not primarily about the father's decision quitting his job to be with his child. It's also about his entitlement minded attitude that he should be allowed to do something no one else in the working world is allowed to do. .
Joe Lunch Bucket is not as rare as a pro baseball player. We have about 800 out of 320 million people.
LaRoche had a verbally negotiated deal with the club, agreed upon when the CLUB pursued him. One VP changed the deal, and poisoned the clubhouse long-term. Write off the White Sox, and VP Williams will be fired within 2 years.
Well if he's been earning that kind of money all these years, he's probably well enough off to retire.
Exactly, he does not need to work. He can demand whatever he wants.
I am retiring at 65 unless the company provides me with a blonde, brunette, redhead and a security guard to watch for the wife.
I think most conservatives place family ahead of work especially in cases where you do not need your job. I realize for most of us taking care of your family means working.
I believe an employer should be able to fire for any reason and certainly believe an employee should be able to quit for any reason unless both sides have a contract limiting free will.
I suggest you read all the posts before you make snap judgements. It's not primarily about the father's decision quitting his job to be with his child. It's also about his entitlement minded attitude that he should be allowed to do something no one else in the working world is allowed to do. It's about the consideration of his fellow teammates. It's about not letting the kid spend time with others the same age.
The unfavorable consensus goes way beyond the first page but not just for the reasons you are assuming.
Not sure what part(s) of my post that you consider "snap judgements". I skimmed the first page and decided to add my opinion.
This whiny entitled pain in the neck is going to take his baseball glove and go home. They are paying him 13.5 MILLION to play a kid's game, and this miserable ingrate wants to whine and cry because they won't let him take his kid to work every day
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We now see that this guy is a Duck Dynasty class holy roller type. And that irrational personality type generally has no problem imposing itself on others and demanding compliant behavior from others around them. So I can imagine the nonsense that was going on.
The White Sox did the right thing, and he should be sent packing back to the swamp as it were.
First of all, I agree that the White Sox did the right thing.
That said, I don't understand all of the vitriol spewed at the father by you and others for making his decision that his family is more important to him than his job. What is wrong with that?
Let's make this a more generic situation: An employee who is a man of faith and believes that family comes first, wants to brings his son to work every day. Management balks at this idea and tells him he can't do that and he'll have to choose between being an employee or being a 24/7 father. Employee, who happens to be wealthy and doesn't need the money from the job to provide for his family, decides that his family is more important to him than his profession, so he chooses to quit his job in order to spend all of his time with his family.
Is that really a reason to castigate an individual? I wonder how many people, if given the choice and opportunity to stay home with family with no financial repercussions rather than work all day, would choose their job over their family?
Now, tell me again why the guy is a miserableingrate with an irrational personality?
First of all, I agree that the White Sox did the right thing.
That said, I don't understand all of the vitriol spewed at the father by you and others for making his decision that his family is more important to him than his job. What is wrong with that?
Let's make this a more generic situation: An employee who is a man of faith and believes that family comes first, wants to brings his son to work every day. Management balks at this idea and tells him he can't do that and he'll have to choose between being an employee or being a 24/7 father. Employee, who happens to be wealthy and doesn't need the money from the job to provide for his family, decides that his family is more important to him than his profession, so he chooses to quit his job in order to spend all of his time with his family.
Is that really a reason to castigate an individual? I wonder how many people, if given the choice and opportunity to stay home with family with no financial repercussions rather than work all day, would choose their job over their family?
Now, tell me again why the guy is a miserableingrate with an irrational personality?
Amen.
LaRoche's tweet, unlike the dumb anger spewed at him, was extremely classy.
His teammate Sales took a far harsher tone vs the VP.
A large bulk of the baseball season falls during the summer.
Hmmm, as close as I can figure it out the regular baseball season is about 26 to 28 weeks long and students have 10 weeks of summer break. And, I believe that the child also attended the preseason training, isn't that another 6 weeks?
So, if there are 32-34 weeks of baseball, most is not during "summer".
But it does not really matter as the dad said that he and his wife "do not value education" anyway.
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Hmmm, as close as I can figure it out the regular baseball season is about 26 to 28 weeks long and students have 10 weeks of summer break. And, I believe that the child also attended the preseason training, isn't that another 6 weeks?
So, if there are 32-34 weeks of baseball, most is not during "summer".
But it does not matter as the dad said that he and his wife "do not value education".
I went to private schools and we had a minimum of 13 weeks off. Plus almost all games are 7 or 7:30 starts now, including home games. Those do not interfere with school at all.
A large bulk of the baseball season falls during the summer.
Spring training starts late February. Regular season starts beginning of April.
March, April, May and a couple weeks of June + September are school months (not counting any playoff time in October). While there are a lot of games played during the summer time (aka no school) there is still a lot of school days during the time baseball falls in.
So he could technically be missing more school days by being with the baseball team than actual time he'd be in the class room.
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