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Old 09-07-2017, 08:07 PM
 
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Ever seen a Texas size BBQ pit on a trailer they drag around behind their pickup trucks? I've seen my Redneck country brothers with huge grills that regularly crank up and feed a crowd. Many of these grills can cook a dozen briskets or 100 hamburgers at the same time.
That's not something an international organization is likely to endorse but my post was in response to claims that these burgers were made in a commercial kitchen and not home-made. And the fact remains, to date no one has been able to say definitively where these burgers were made and by whom.
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Old 09-07-2017, 08:08 PM
 
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Too hard to read due to formatting so cannot comment on the original post. However, I agree with those saying the red cross cannot take responsibility for hamburgers cooked by someone else.
Without reading the original post, sounds like someone was muffed about being told no by the RD and probably needs to grow up.
Let's see, people with an organization took the time to buy 400 meals and flew them to the airport where these evacuees were so they could serve them while they were hot, and you think they should not be "muffed" about them wanting to put them in ice chests and "take them to the distribution center", which is apparently code for throwing them in the trash or giving them to volunteers?

What is wrong with the world?
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Old 09-07-2017, 08:20 PM
 
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Let's see, people with an organization took the time to buy 400 meals and flew them to the airport where these evacuees were so they could serve them while they were hot, and you think they should not be "muffed" about them wanting to put them in ice chests and "take them to the distribution center", which is apparently code for throwing them in the trash or giving them to volunteers?

What is wrong with the world?
WHO made the burgers?

WHERE were they made?

Why can nobody answer those two simple questions? You think an organization should distribute food provided by someone who cannot answer those basic questions?
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Old 09-07-2017, 08:22 PM
 
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There are laws about this. They exist for good reason. This isn't Little House on the Prairie, you know. In my town, the Missionaries of Charity distribute food to the homeless out of vans that pull up to various parks on a regular schedule. All of their kitchens and other facilities are inspected and permitted and they wouldn't have it any other way. THAT'S how it's done.
In times of disaster... many laws are suspended across the board...

The British government donated tens of thousands for MRE rations after Katrina... the same used by the British Military around the world.

Most may not remember that the entire donation was thrown away... as it did not meet US standards.

This is the kind of non-sense that casts a bad light on the United States... All of Europe and other countries had a field day with the wanton waste in a time of great tragedy and people in New Orleans going without food and fresh water for many days...

Last edited by Ultrarunner; 09-09-2017 at 09:54 PM.. Reason: Changed FDA to US Standards
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Old 09-07-2017, 08:37 PM
 
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WHO made the burgers?

WHERE were they made?

Why can nobody answer those two simple questions? You think an organization should distribute food provided by someone who cannot answer those basic questions?
I think the point was that THIS organization was going to distribute the food. They had coordinated all this before the Red Cross even showed up. What gives them the right to say the food could not be distributed?

These people are adults who have the ability to decide for themselves whether they want to eat a hamburger or some cold prepackaged sandwich. I'm sure if it was made by a restaurant or even a big BBQ pit like was mentioned above was all discussed at the time. It just didn't make it into the post or the statement where it was from. But obviously it wasn't cooked at home.

These people are not in some institution, and the Red Cross is not their keepers.
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Old 09-07-2017, 08:41 PM
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The biggest problem here is the vagueness of the story. We are only speculating about who and where the burgers were made. We don't know what organization was responsible for them appearing at the airport, and we don't know what, if any, authority the RC had over the burger-procurers. If the FB poster and her companions were trying to distribute food under a RC tent, then yes, the RC had the authority to say No to the burgers. If the FB poster et al were a local charity, they could have set their own table up elsewhere. There's a lot we don't know here.
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Old 09-07-2017, 08:42 PM
 
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In times of disaster... many laws are suspended across the board...

The British government donated tens of thousands for MRE rations after Katrina... the same used by the British Military around the world.

Most may not remember that the entire donation was thrown away... as it was not FDA.

This is the kind of non-sense that casts a bad light on the United States... All of Europe and other countries had a field day with the wanton waste in a time of great tragedy and people in New Orleans going without food and fresh water for many days...
Exactly!! It was ridiculous that the MREs were thrown away, and if not for some strong willed people, these burgers would have been thrown away too.
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Old 09-07-2017, 08:45 PM
 
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The biggest problem here is the vagueness of the story. We are only speculating about who and where the burgers were made. We don't know what organization was responsible for them appearing at the airport, and we don't know what, if any, authority the RC had over the burger-procurers. If the FB poster and her companions were trying to distribute food under a RC tent, then yes, the RC had the authority to say No to the burgers. If the FB poster et al were a local charity, they could have set their own table up elsewhere. There's a lot we don't know here.
The organization was the Sky Hope Network, along with members of the community that wanted to help. It was mentioned in the FB post. It happened at an airport where a group of evacuees were being flown to Dallas to another shelter or to get different shelter. It was all in the Snopes article.
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Old 09-07-2017, 08:45 PM
 
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I think the point was that THIS organization was going to distribute the food. They had coordinated all this before the Red Cross even showed up. What gives them the right to say the food could not be distributed?

These people are adults who have the ability to decide for themselves whether they want to eat a hamburger or some cold prepackaged sandwich. I'm sure if it was made by a restaurant or even a big BBQ pit like was mentioned above was all discussed at the time. It just didn't make it into the post or the statement where it was from. But obviously it wasn't cooked at home.

These people are not in some institution, and the Red Cross is not their keepers.
This right here. And not only was it a 501(c)3 charity, but coordination was also done with the State Representative for the area, long before the Red Cross showed up and decided that they wouldn't let anyone else help "their" victims.
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Old 09-07-2017, 09:40 PM
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I think the point was that THIS organization was going to distribute the food. They had coordinated all this before the Red Cross even showed up. What gives them the right to say the food could not be distributed?

These people are adults who have the ability to decide for themselves whether they want to eat a hamburger or some cold prepackaged sandwich. I'm sure if it was made by a restaurant or even a big BBQ pit like was mentioned above was all discussed at the time. It just didn't make it into the post or the statement where it was from. But obviously it wasn't cooked at home.

These people are not in some institution, and the Red Cross is not their keepers.
Who/what is "THIS organization?" The FB post doesn't name it

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The organization was the Sky Hope Network, along with members of the community that wanted to help. It was mentioned in the FB post. It happened at an airport where a group of evacuees were being flown to Dallas to another shelter or to get different shelter. It was all in the Snopes article.
The Sky Hope Network doesn't cook burgers or distribute them. They are an aviation group that provides flights for charity and disaster aid. My understanding was that they had flown the burgers to that airport, although I could be wrong about that. Again, neither the FB post nor the Snopes article say who/where the burgers were made, nor what organization procured them, nor whether those people were actually volunteering for the RC at the time.
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