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And as one commenter says, "I like how he wipes his eyes but there aren't any tears."
Of course he is lying. I have thought that from the very beginning.
And there is a section of that video that i had not seen (or not noticed) before. It shows his arms (and Chloe) extended out past the window. VERY clearly. The family needs to withdraw this lawsuit - it's just absurd.
Of course he is lying. I have thought that from the very beginning.
And there is a section of that video that i had not seen (or not noticed) before. It shows his arms (and Chloe) extended out past the window. VERY clearly. The family needs to withdraw this lawsuit - it's just absurd.
It really is.
I was very firmly in the guy's "camp" too that this was just a horrible, horrible accident exacerbated by some degree of negligence on RC's part.
However, the video doesn't lie.
He literally dropped this kid out the window.
I'm glad he's been charged...and I sure wasn't singing that tune before I saw the video.
Quite a few people were in the "Leave Grandpa alone, he has to live with this the rest of his life" camp.
Judging by what I've seen online, not just on C-D, nobody's saying that any more.
Finally. When it comes to the death of a child who could not have acted in a way to protect herself in a situation that was clearly unsafe, no, grandpa should not be left alone. Though I am not sure I would push it as far as an intentional act. The video needs to be clearer.
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Quite a few people were in the "Leave Grandpa alone, he has to live with this the rest of his life" camp.
Judging by what I've seen online, not just on C-D, nobody's saying that any more.
I think you'll agree with me, that reactions online are almost always enraged and blaming. Few are full of soft, quiet empathy. In any story that continues to generate postings from the public after, say, a one week period. It's almost always outrage that is expressed.
In this case, people are outraged against grandpa.
Very few stories that continue to generate lots of public internet conversations are fueled by empathy or curiosity.
I think you'll agree with me, that reactions online are almost always enraged and blaming. Few are full of soft, quiet empathy. In any story that continues to generate postings from the public after, say, a one week period. It's almost always outrage that is expressed.
In this case, people are outraged against grandpa.
They weren't outraged until 1) the family decided to sue RC and 2) Anello started lying.
There is such a thing as justified outrage, you know.
Anello, elderly and color-blind, made his third court appearance today in San Juan, Puerto Rico
As the elderly, color-blind grandpa made his third court appearance today in San Juan, the couple called on prosecutors to scrap the negligent homicide charge so they can finally grieve together as a family.
'We respectfully ask the Puerto Rican prosecutors to take a hard look at the new evidence that has come to light,' Alan and Kimberly said in an emotion-charged statement shared exclusively with DailyMail.com. 'It shows what we have known all along, that Sam thought it was a wall of glass.
'We will stand with Sam as long as it takes - but we cannot grieve as a family until the criminal charges are dropped.'
After learning the kids splash pool area where 18-month-old Chloe fell was about to be refurbished the Wiegand's investigators boarded the $800million ship to take documentary photos and measurements.
They were surprised to find 13 different cameras overlooking the area, according to papers filed this week in the parallel civil lawsuit the parents have filed against Royal Caribbean for negligence.
Wearing a black suit, checked shirt and dark tie, he similarly said nothing throughout the 10-minute Spanish-language hearing but listened carefully through an interpreter as defense lawyer Jose Guillermo Perez Ortiz asked for another month to prepare his case.
Perez Ortiz told the court he plans to call two key witnesses, a specialist in recreating the scenes of accidents and a medical expert.
Judge Gisela Alfonso Fernandez scheduled the next hearing for February 24 and told Anello it was 'imperative' that he attend the hearing in person, when it's likely his trial date will be set.
Quite a few people were in the "Leave Grandpa alone, he has to live with this the rest of his life" camp.
Judging by what I've seen online, not just on C-D, nobody's saying that any more.
That was me. I still think it is a terrible, horrible tragedy, and I'll even go so far as to believe that grandpa is not lying (or at least doesn't think he is lying), but that was absolutely negligent on his part. The railing was there for a reason.
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They weren't outraged until 1) the family decided to sue RC and 2) Anello started lying.
There is such a thing as justified outrage, you know.
I think the people who looked at the story in horror, and gasped and posted "oh no that poor family, that poor sweet little girl!! that family will never be the same" are mostly gone.
They reacted, felt sad for a moment, and moved on. They're now posting a reaction to a funny puppy video or a new trendy restaurant.
For the most part, the people who continue to react to a news story like this are the outraged, who are seeking vengeance. Or at the very least would like to see the family endure the additional pain of publicly acknowledging their trusted grandpa was willfully negligent and is fully to blame for their child's death.
That was me. I still think it is a terrible, horrible tragedy, and I'll even go so far as to believe that grandpa is not lying (or at least doesn't think he is lying), but that was absolutely negligent on his part. The railing was there for a reason.
I somewhat agree that he doesn't believe he's lying but then again, that video interview where he wipes dry eyes is pretty damning to him. I only watched it, didn't listen yet.
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I think the people who looked at the story in horror, and gasped and posted "oh no that poor family, that poor sweet little girl!! that family will never be the same" are mostly gone.
They reacted, felt sad for a moment, and moved on. They're now posting a reaction to a funny puppy video or a new trendy restaurant.
For the most part, the people who continue to react to a news story like this are the outraged, who are seeking vengeance. Or at the very least would like to see the family endure the additional pain of publicly acknowledging their trusted grandpa was willfully negligent and is fully to blame for their child's death.
Do you disagree with that?
I feel he is to blame, he lifted her up there. I also feel the video we've seen is some what deceptive. I'd really like to see more video, especially since there's supposedly 13 cameras.
What gets me is why is the cruise line going to remodel that area all of a sudden? While the case is ongoing, I don't think they should be allowed to touch it, especially if there is a jury trial. Every juror should be allowed access to the area to see it for themselves and to try to lean over.
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