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If you cannot differentiate between an open and closed window then you are an idiot and should be removed off this planet. The family is looking to blame everyone but the grandfather who totally F-ed up. It's no body else's fault but his own.
Sounds like that's exactly what happened. Grandpa didn't think this one all the way through and the little girl plunged to her death.
Sounds like the grandfather put her up on the railing to pound on the glass window.
Who does that?
Who puts a toddler up to a railing to pound on glass?
Pounding on plexiglass at a hockey game is one thing. Pounding on a glass window is another.
Then there is the additional issue of there being no glass window to pound on.
There's nothing wrong with it on the face of it, they were trying to keep her entertained. Babies can't do any kind of damage to thick glass like that. You'd barely feel it if a baby hit you.
No, of course not, although I'd guess it's in the hands of LE and the lawyer by now.
I want to see the actual window, compared to the other windows. How obvious it would have been.
And no, the picture of the actual one wasn't shown yet. Pictures that we presume to be similar have been shown, with about half the windows open.
The family states (and no one is disputing this, that I can see) that it was the only window along that wall the was open.
Which is not at all what the other pictures show.
There was a picture posted of what it looks like with just one window open. It's very obvious that one window is open as the rest are tinted blue.
The windows are the exact same all around the pool deck, which is the entire outside area. They are all sliding glass windows that are tinted blue with a railing a few inches away from the wall.
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There was a picture posted of what it looks like with just one window open. It's very obvious that one window is open as the rest are tinted blue.
The windows are the exact same all around the pool deck, which is the entire outside area. They are all sliding glass windows that are tinted blue with a railing a few inches away from the wall.
See, this is exactly what I'm saying. There is no way a toddler could fall out that window, if she were stood on the railing (where the feet are in the photo).
I still don't know exactly what it looked like - but it didn't look like that photo.
The child would have barely been able to put her fingertips out the window, stretched out.
There was a picture posted of what it looks like with just one window open. It's very obvious that one window is open as the rest are tinted blue.
The windows are the exact same all around the pool deck, which is the entire outside area. They are all sliding glass windows that are tinted blue with a railing a few inches away from the wall. No one is saying that he should not have noticed it open but that maybe for a variety of reasons he did not. That is he is not lying.
The window is obviously open in that picture because it's only half-open. How the blue tinting appeared visually to someone can depend on lighting and distance.
This was an unlikely accident. It was either unlikely because the grandfather did not see that the window was open or it was unlikely because he somehow "slipped" while standing there, dropping the child through the window.
I suppose I could see someone saying that he tripped - maybe on a lounger leg and in his falling forward against the railing the child flew forward from his hands. But no one is saying that - neither the cruise line (presumably that's the version as given by Port Authority) or the family.
Port Authority: The grandfather sat the girl in the window and lost his balance, and the girl fell to her death. How would you "lose your balance" or "slip" on that decking once presumably stationary - just standing there?
One thing this thread is making very clear, and that is until if and when the surveillance video is released to the public and all of us have a chance to view it -- or there is a very detailed report from an objective source we can read/see -- our opinions are worth very little (and, of course, that includes my opinion, too).
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