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Yes, and we have been voted the worst dental hygiene state.
It's sad, we have a lot of poor people and immigrants, they are not motivated to good dental care. If we had fluoridation, perhaps we would not be #1 for the worst teeth.
It hurts the poor, not those who are in the middle class and up. We have dental coverage, electric toothbrushes, and such.
Do you realize how it limits those without good dental hygiene? No one will hire them for things like waitstaff, hotel staff and such. A mouth full of rotten teeth is their downfall financially.
So that kind of voting goes on in states, didn't know that.
We have plenty of poor and immigrants as well in our state of 40 Million. And don't get the naturally occurring fluoride that I would think Hawaii gets with all the moisture. I know of many who had mouthfuls of horrible dental issues and lived in fluoridated waters. Both naturally and the bags of powder stuff.
So that kind of voting goes on in states, didn't know that.
We have plenty of poor and immigrants as well in our state of 40 Million. And don't get the naturally occurring fluoride that I would think Hawaii gets with all the moisture. I know of many who had mouthfuls of horrible dental issues and lived in fluoridated waters. Both naturally and the bags of powder stuff.
"Voting" is perhaps not the best word. The extent of the tooth decay problem in Hawaii is based on looking at teeth.
"The department compiled the findings in a comprehensive 20-page report called 'Hawai‘i Smiles,' which yielded such depressing conclusions as 'many children are not aware that teeth are not supposed to hurt,' and if these dental care assessments 'applied to all children in kindergarten to sixth grade, more than 6,600 children in Hawai‘i’s public elementary schools experience pain or infection due to dental disease on any given day.'”
"'What we found at the time was that the military families at Schofield, where the water is fluoridated, their teeth were in so much better shape than places like Wai‘anae. It’s sad because, in the poorer areas, you see a lot of the kids there 11 or 12 years old and they already lost some of their permanent teeth.'”
No one says fluoride will eliminate all cavities. It is only part of good dental hygiene, along with limiting sweets, brushing, flossing, and regular preventive visits to the dentist for cleaning. For children, sealants can be applied to the teeth, since their brushing and flossing may be less than optimal.
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Sigh...I wish CD offered that beating a dead horse icon. There are lots of info sources (wacko, credible, foreign, domestic, and even boringly honest) contained in this thread for all to read. People just have to be willing to do so instead of cherry picking those that only support what they already believe. Its impossible not to learn something new.
Unless you drink distilled water, you're getting fluoride in your water. Even then, you're likely getting trace amounts. Fluoride is a naturally occurring element in water. All water has it. Some areas have more than others, but no natural water source is without fluoride.
You are forced to drink it even if you buy spring water. Not because they add it - but because it is one of the elements that occur naturally in water.
I don't know how much clearer anyone can get here.
Water comes with fluoride. You're getting it whether they add it to your watersource or not.
Many of us choose to drink purified water. It's very easy to research which brands don't have fluoride.
I started distilling water at home in the 80's before bottled water became a thing.
Many of us choose to drink purified water. It's very easy to research which brands don't have fluoride.
I started distilling water at home in the 80's before bottled water became a thing.
Are you showering with distilled or "purified" water too? Cause, according to all these crackpot conspiracy anti-fluoride conspiracy websites, fluoride can absorb through the skin too.
(pro-tip - there's no data on absorption of fluoride through the skin but it's known that the fluoride ion itself does not pass through skin. If the conspiracy websites are wrong about THAT - kinda have to wonder what else they're wrong about.)
The "Fluoride Action Network" is, as its name clearly states anyway, an ideological front. There are also minority organizations of scientists that deny global climate change, and those that make way overstated claims, and some outright falsehoods, about the "dangers" of dairy in diet. Some make hysterical claims about GMOs. All of these groups have an ideological axe to grind - so don't just simply trot out their dogma and opinion as "fact".
Its certainly not "modern science" stating that - you need to get a bit more clued up about opinion pieces and meta-analysis of epidemiological studies. Are you concerned about all the fluoride that is an essential component of your bones? And of your teeth? Do you freak about drinking tea and grape juice - both of which have some of the highest known concentrations of fluoride in any dietary sources?
Scientific illiteracy, not being able to distinguish between opinions and facts, and the freedom on the internet to paste any old codswallop one wants and have it the given the imprimatur of then being "citable research" is a dangerous combination for those with undeveloped critical thinking skills.
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