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If fluoride gives you hives, exposure to sea water should give you hives in the same way exposure to fluoridated tap water would.
If someone gets hives after exposure to tap water there are many substances besides fluoride that could be the culprit.
Believing that fluoride is the cause of the problem is not proof that it is.
I lived in NYC from 1948 until 1987. From the time I was a teenager until I moved in my 30's I would get red blotches on my skin and itching after showers. No hives, but I was a lot younger then. I actually didn't shower every day because I dreaded the after effects. When we moved, I never had a problem on LI.
NYC put fluoride into the water in 1965 when I was 17. I certainly wasn't going to any beach in Manhattan. lol So you tell me what other elements in the water system, besides fluoride, are similar in NYC and Naples, Florida? NYC's water comes from Upstate in the Catskill Mountains. No MOUNTAINS in Florida. The water elements are similar? The only common denominator between the those places is fluoroide in water system; as opposed to LI (beaches!) and the Pocono MOUNTAINS where I now live. Lived in too many different places for you to claim something ELSE in water systems caused my skin reactions,
Are you also going to dismiss my bleeding hands allergic reaction too because that wasn't diagnosed by a medical professional?
BTW, drinking all that fluoride in the water for decades did not help my teeth one bit.
I lived in NYC from 1948 until 1987. From the time I was a teenager until I moved in my 30's I would get red blotches on my skin and itching after showers. No hives, but I was a lot younger then. I actually didn't shower every day because I dreaded the after effects. When we moved, I never had a problem on LI.
NYC put fluoride into the water in 1965 when I was 17. I certainly wasn't going to any beach in Manhattan. lol So you tell me what other elements in the water system, besides fluoride, are similar in NYC and Naples, Florida? NYC's water comes from Upstate in the Catskill Mountains. No MOUNTAINS in Florida. The water elements are similar? The only common denominator between the those places is fluoroide in water system; as opposed to LI (beaches!) and the Pocono MOUNTAINS where I now live. Lived in too many different places for you to claim something ELSE in water systems caused my skin reactions,
Are you also going to dismiss my bleeding hands allergic reaction too because that wasn't diagnosed by a medical professional?
BTW, drinking all that fluoride in the water for decades did not help my teeth one bit.
Tap water contains many chemicals. The only way to compare different systems is to get the reports for each system and compare them. Have you done that? If not, you do not know what you reacted to. You would have to be tested for every chemical that was found in all the water samples. All you truly know is that you reacted to something in the water and whatever that something was could be filtered out.
Having your hands bleed because of contact with bleach is a chemical burn. Anyone who handles bleach can have that happen. That is not an allergy.
Allergy to latex is a true allergy. The body reacts to the protein in the sap. Fluoride is not a protein. It is found in varying concentrations in all water.
Am I to understand that you have never set foot in an ocean, despite having lived in Florida?
It could be the chlorine; it's a chemical required by the EPA to be present in detectable levels in all tap water in this country.
Chlorine is another word for bleach.
It's why I don't drink tap water. I have a sensitive nose, and the smell offends me.
For as many years as I can remember our town sent our to residents a report on water quality and what was in our water. Then after our council bought into the fluoridation and that was in 2008 when they started it and bought the bags of toxins, they no longer send out reports. My thinking is they don't want the residents to see the added fluoride...there was always naturally occurring but that changed in 2008. Many residents fought the issue. But the council caved and bought their story.
For as many years as I can remember our town sent our to residents a report on water quality and what was in our water. Then after our council bought into the fluoridation and that was in 2008 when they started it and bought the bags of toxins, they no longer send out reports. My thinking is they don't want the residents to see the added fluoride...there was always naturally occurring but that changed in 2008. Many residents fought the issue. But the council caved and bought their story.
Your water quality report is probably available online or you can request a copy. Such reports are required by federal law. My community does not send letters. Anyone who is interested can see it online.
Fluoride in tap water is not a toxin. Some understanding of basic chemistry is helpful in understanding why.
Tap water contains many chemicals. The only way to compare different systems is to get the reports for each system and compare them. Have you done that? If not, you do not know what you reacted to. You would have to be tested for every chemical that was found in all the water samples. All you truly know is that you reacted to something in the water and whatever that something was could be filtered out.
Having your hands bleed because of contact with bleach is a chemical burn. Anyone who handles bleach can have that happen. That is not an allergy.
Allergy to latex is a true allergy. The body reacts to the protein in the sap. Fluoride is not a protein. It is found in varying concentrations in all water.
Am I to understand that you have never set foot in an ocean, despite having lived in Florida?
Literally, 5 times in 10 years when I first moved to Florida. Did not go in pools either. I don't like hot weather and blazing sun.
Oh, not only bleach, but anti-bacterial soaps and hand santizers also. Aren't those supposed to come into contact with your skin? I brought my own bar of soap to wash my hands with at work.
The bleach was diluted with water, not straight. We were supposed to disinfect surfaces with it in schools and group homes. Do you seriously think we used straight bleach? I wore gloves to do that. No other coworkers had a problem using diluted bleach. Wool sweaters make me itch too, except for alpaca.
Literally, 5 times in 10 years when I first moved to Florida. Did not go in pools either. I don't like hot weather and blazing sun.
Oh, not only bleach, but anti-bacterial soaps and hand santizers also. Aren't those supposed to come into contact with your skin? I brought my own bar of soap to wash my hands with at work.
The bleach was diluted with water, not straight. We were supposed to disinfect surfaces with it in schools and group homes. Do you seriously think we used straight bleach? I wore gloves to do that. No other coworkers had a problem using diluted bleach. Wool sweaters make me itch too, except for alpaca.
Sensitive skin.
When you did go in the ocean did you have the same reaction you did to a shower?
I did not say you were using straight bleach. Even diluted it can cause a chemical burn.
Wool makes a lot of people itch. It's not an allergy.
Didn't go to beach enough or stay in the water. I went home and showered right away. The hives do not happen immediately. They increase over time and conditions. Starts with a few and progresses from there. Again, you cannot draw your conclusion from beach water because I spent far more time taking showers than going in ocean water. Did I get hives immediately when I moved to Florida and showered in fluoridated water? No, it took weeks and increased from nothing to a few to all over. ONCE does not do it. When I went back to LI, my hives did not suddenly disappear showering in non fluoridated water. That also took weeks to go away.
Very similar to my hands. If I use anti-bacterial soaps, hand santizers, or latex gloves a couple of times, nothing happens. It is when I use or wear those on daily basis, it progresses from nothing to cracked skin, to raw, to bleeding over time. Very similar to showering on a daily basis. Maybe you could call it a build up reaction.
Perhaps a Specialist, as in a Dermatologist rather than GP, might be better able to answer the difference in severe skin reactions as opposed to say severe food reactions like peanuts or shellfish where reactions happen immediately.
At any rate, unfluoridated water is working great for me. I will go with what works, including losing all the anti-bacterial products and latex. At least I had a CHOICE with those, including at work. Washing your hands with plain soap and water or non-latex gloves is fine with us. No doctor's note needed.
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