How would you say DFW compares to other metro areas? (Houston: houses, live)

[Trae713]

Originally Posted by dollaztx

If I could some up Dallas' success in one word it would be Logistics. I cant believe I agree with you Mr Nifty but you are correct in this regard. The more the sunbelt part of the US grows the more important DFW will become. Chicago's success is summed up by the same word. Both of these cities have benefited from their position on a national scope and have become the biggest hubs in transportation, shipping, etc. because of it. Chicago has dominated this for the most part in our nations history because their was no NAFTA and because the distribution of the US population was mostly consentrated in the north but that is changing day by day.

The more Miami, Houston, Phoenix, LA, San Diego, Austin grow the more DFW will benefit because the trade of goods, services and people from one city to the other must pass through our area.

True, but you could also say the more DFW and those other cities grow, the more it helps Houston because of the Port of Houston. Both Texas cities are in great positions for the future.

[Mister Nifty]

Originally Posted by Scarface713

True, but you could also say the more DFW and those other cities grow, the more it helps Houston because of the Port of Houston. Both Texas cities are in great positions for the future.

But it doesn't work out that way. Dallas - Fort Worth has 700 million square feet of warehouse space to Houston's 450 million. There is three stores in DFW to every two in the Houston area. Almost three hotel rooms in DFW to every two in the Houston area.

[Runemaster]

Wow. This is far more information than I'd hoped for. Thanks to everyone and please keep it coming.

[Trae713]

Originally Posted by Mister Nifty

But it doesn't work out that way. Dallas - Fort Worth has 700 million square feet of warehouse space to Houston's 450 million. There is three stores in DFW to every two in the Houston area. Almost three hotel rooms in DFW to every two in the Houston area.

With the Panama Canal expansion, among other things, I completely disagree with you. Houston is still the entry and exit point for A LOT of goods in the US. The more metro areas around Houston grow, the more the Port of Houston will grow. And of course DFW has more warehouse space, it's a distribution center like Atlanta. Also, DFW's large trade market is the reason for more stores. Houston's trade market is sandwiched in by Central Texas and North Texas. DFW's extends out into West Texas and up into Oklahoma. Both Houston and DFW are growing at about the same in terms of raw numbers and growth rate.

[Mister Nifty]

Originally Posted by Scarface713

With the Panama Canal expansion, among other things, I completely disagree with you. Houston is still the entry and exit point for A LOT of goods in the US. The more metro areas around Houston grow, the more the Port of Houston will grow. And of course DFW has more warehouse space, it's a distribution center like Atlanta. Also, DFW's large trade market is the reason for more stores. Houston's trade market is sandwiched in by Central Texas and North Texas. DFW's extends out into West Texas and up into Oklahoma. Both Houston and DFW are growing at about the same in terms of raw numbers and growth rate.

First off, because of the development of the rail container port in southern Dallas country, the DFW area should be classified as a minor seaport. As a hurricane once destroyed Galveston as the second wealthiest city in the nation, hurricanes and tropical storms have effected the infrastructure of Houston as well as it is located fifty miles inland. As technology has advanced, this has pushed a lot of business to DFW. This is why southern Dallas county is expected to boom in the future, as is Ennis, and perhaps even Corsicana.
So, Dallas - Fort Worth should not be considered as landlocked as Atlanta. As Atlanta is 663 miles from Miami, Dallas is 778 miles from Atlanta. Houston is 214 miles from Dallas. So, Miami does not have the same relationship with Atlanta as Houston has with Dallas.
You short change the significance of DFW. The area is significant on four levels -- National, Regional, State, and Local. This is why companies have multiple warehouses located in the area.
At any given time, there is just more visitors within the metropolitan area of Dallas - Fort Worth than in the Houston area. DFW is just more of a crossroads.
What makes the Texas State Fair just a little more significant than the Houston Rodeo? It is the element of it being more of a crossroads.

[diablo234]

Originally Posted by Mister Nifty

So, Dallas - Fort Worth should not be considered as landlocked as Atlanta. As Atlanta is 663 miles from Miami, Dallas is 778 miles from Atlanta. Houston is 214 miles from Dallas. So, Miami does not have the same relationship with Atlanta as Houston has with Dallas.

And Atlanta is only 248 miles from Savannah which is a major port.

So yes Dallas is about as landlocked as Atlanta.

(FYI: Mapquest says Dallas is 239 miles away from Houston, not 214 miles)

[Trae713]

Originally Posted by Mister Nifty

First off, because of the development of the rail container port in southern Dallas country, the DFW area should be classified as a minor seaport. As a hurricane once destroyed Galveston as the second wealthiest city in the nation, hurricanes and tropical storms have effected the infrastructure of Houston as well as it is located fifty miles inland. As technology has advanced, this has pushed a lot of business to DFW. This is why southern Dallas county is expected to boom in the future, as is Ennis, and perhaps even Corsicana.

No sir, Dallas is not in any way, shape, or form a seaport. Dallas is a rail and air distribution hub. And actually, the new rail container port near Ennis was built in part because the Port of Houston needed more space. Both areas sort of worked together to get that rail container port built. And what businesses from Houston have been shifted to DFW? What you're saying is not true. Galveston was AT sea level and no one listened to the warnings. Houston is inland, more elevated, and there are better building codes nowadays. The success of both DFW and Houston rely on one another. Even if you don't want to admit it, Houston and DFW need each other. Their strengths and weaknesses work well.

So, Dallas - Fort Worth should not be considered as landlocked as Atlanta. As Atlanta is 663 miles from Miami, Dallas is 778 miles from Atlanta. Houston is 214 miles from Dallas. So, Miami does not have the same relationship with Atlanta as Houston has with Dallas.

Nah, Dallas-Fort Worth is actually more landlocked than Atlanta. Atlanta isn't as far from the Savannah port as DFW is from Houston's port.

You short change the significance of DFW. The area is significant on four levels -- National, Regional, State, and Local. This is why companies have multiple warehouses located in the area.
At any given time, there is just more visitors within the metropolitan area of Dallas - Fort Worth than in the Houston area. DFW is just more of a crossroads.

More like you're shortchanging the significance of Houston. I don't think I've shortchanged the DFW area at all. As far as the visitors reference, explain to me why Houston receives more annual visitors than DFW? And yes, DFW is a large distribution center, so there are a lot of warehouses in the area.

What makes the Texas State Fair just a little more significant than the Houston Rodeo? It is the element of it being more of a crossroads.

Both are about equal nowadays. The Houston Rodeo's attendance has really grown. Both showcase different things, too. The State Fair has sporting events, while the Houston rodeo has large concerts.

[Mister Nifty]

Originally Posted by diablo234

And Atlanta is only 248 miles from Savannah which is a major port.

So yes Dallas is about as landlocked as Atlanta.

(FYI: Mapquest says Dallas is 239 miles away from Houston, not 214 miles)

But southern Dallas county is only about that distance from the port of Houston, the city of Ennis closer, and the city of Corsicana even closer still. Anyway, the turn around time for the truck driver is the important thing. A driver has to be able to deliver and return. That isn't possible from the container port located at Alliance Airport.
Here is the port of Savannah.
//www.city-data.com/forum/newre...ply&p=16260549
It does seem to have a relationship with Atlanta as the port of Houston has a relationship with DFW. Still, the fact Miami is so far from it is going to keep the port of Savannah from serving it.

[Trae713]

Originally Posted by Mister Nifty

But southern Dallas county is only about that distance from the port of Houston, the city of Ennis closer, and the city of Corsicana even closer still. Anyway, the turn around time for the truck driver is the important thing. A driver has to be able to deliver and return. That isn't possible from the container port located at Alliance Airport.
Here is the port of Savannah.

Why don't you do the same for Atlanta? I'm sure Atlanta has other distribution centers in its metro that are closer to Savannah's port than city hall.

[Cowboys fan in Houston]

^^^Scarface, save yourself the heartache. Youre arguing as if things like logic and facts matter. Just say stuff that doesnt make sense and youll fit right in.