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This is obvious for a lot of folks including me. Excessive sugar consumption was the cause of MY type 2 diabetes. My poison of choice was regular coke in excess amounts on a daily basis for years and years. Your's may be something else. My pancreas couldn't keep up and eventually broke down. IMO, genetics only play a small part with this disease. The main culprit is diet of course. The ADA spews out tons of misinformation all causing even more harm. Take a look if you wish.
IMO, genetics only play a small part with this disease. The main culprit is diet of course.
I have to wonder how my husband eats so many carbs, all day, every day, and his pancreas is fine. He eats cakes, pies, cookies, and candy all day long and has all his 60+ years...but he has no diabetes. There is no diabetes in his family.
I haven't had a sweet tooth (yes, I know not all carbs are sweet, but you get what I mean here) since I was a kid, have never been overweight, same with several other people in my family...but we have diabetes just like our mother and grandmother and various cousins.
IMO, genetics do play quite a role in this disease.
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This is obvious for a lot of folks including me. Excessive sugar consumption was the cause of MY type 2 diabetes. My poison of choice was regular coke in excess amounts on a daily basis for years and years. Your's may be something else. My pancreas couldn't keep up and eventually broke down. IMO, genetics only play a small part with this disease. The main culprit is diet of course. The ADA spews out tons of misinformation all causing even more harm. Take a look if you wish.
I just find it odd that a chiropractor is giving medical advise on diabetes. Not that the advise is really bad, a bit oversimplified but probably appropriate for the audience, but he's a chiropractor not an M.D. Not exactly his field of expertise. Also seems to be a quasi-quack. X-ray tech turned chiro turned "diet doctor." That said, yeah, drinking ingesting tons of sugar is not good and is correlated strongly with developing type II diabetes. Not sure why you think the ADA is spewing out that it's not.
I have to wonder how my husband eats so many carbs, all day, every day, and his pancreas is fine. He eats cakes, pies, cookies, and candy all day long and has all his 60+ years...but he has no diabetes. There is no diabetes in his family.
I haven't had a sweet tooth (yes, I know not all carbs are sweet, but you get what I mean here) since I was a kid, have never been overweight, same with several other people in my family...but we have diabetes just like our mother and grandmother and various cousins.
IMO, genetics do play quite a role in this disease.
IMO, yes genetics play a role in this disease and IMO type 2 diabetes is not really disease but a metaboloic disorder. This is only to the extent that if one person develops really bad eating habits, develops this condition and then has children then yes it's passed on. Much like being the child of an alcoholic is way more prone to becoming an alcoholic. The cycle can be broken with awareness but the genetic predisposition still exists and again IMO genetics make up less than a 25% chance. Of course this is impossible to calculate. This is why certain groups have a higher instance of diabetes, their culture and the diet that goes along with it.
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Originally Posted by Malloric
I just find it odd that a chiropractor is giving medical advise on diabetes. Not that the advise is really bad, a bit oversimplified but probably appropriate for the audience, but he's a chiropractor not an M.D. Not exactly his field of expertise. Also seems to be a quasi-quack. X-ray tech turned chiro turned "diet doctor." That said, yeah, drinking ingesting tons of sugar is not good and is correlated strongly with developing type II diabetes. Not sure why you think the ADA is spewing out that it's not.
You are certainly entitled to you opinion of Dr. Berg but the advice he gives IS completely valid and he backs it up with a lot of printed material from medical books.
Their dietary guidelines are misguided and skewed and if followed closely will lead to MORE health complications instead of less. Eric Berg is not just giving out advice on diabetes but on ketogenic diets and alternative eating. He's the author of 7 books and it goes a bit deeper than just being a chiropractor. Let's just say he's well studied and is more educated than most other people posting diet advice on youtube. There are a lot of them by the way. https://www.drberg.com/dr-eric-berg/bio https://www.youtube.com/user/drericberg123
I've met many chiropractors who have gone on to study various other health issues. So I'm not surprised at the one above.
Just coming out of 3 rehabs for a knee mess, I came in contact with many diabetics, young ones insulin dependent. I believe too genetics plays a huge role.
But sugar is sure the devil. I did my share during my life and no diabetes..I have not touched a soda in mega years. Common sense and research.
I believe many don't know they have diabetes. Many poor don't get best medical treatment...like annual bloodwork.
There is SOOOO much more to "diabetes" than sugar intake. It is actually caused more by the bad trans-fats. It is a complicated issue, and sadly, most doctors have no idea about the causes or proper treatment. It does run in my family, so that I do believe is a factor in why I have it now.
There is SOOOO much more to "diabetes" than sugar intake. It is actually caused more by the bad trans-fats. It is a complicated issue, and sadly, most doctors have no idea about the causes or proper treatment. It does run in my family, so that I do believe is a factor in why I have it now.
Trans-fats, like margarine?
My chiropractor and my dentist (which sounds silly, but he was a trusted, knowledgeable guy) warned us against eating margarine in the early 90's.
My chiropractor and my dentist (which sounds silly, but he was a trusted, knowledgeable guy) warned us against eating margarine in the early 90's.
Yes, like margarine and all the other hydrogenated industrial vegetable oils. The body cannot really process them and makes your cells like plastic, where nutrients cannot get through. They cause a lot of inflammation; which raises your blood glucose. Stick to real fats, animal fats, butter, coconut and olive oils, etc. There is info out ther on this if you google.
There is SOOOO much more to "diabetes" than sugar intake. It is actually caused more by the bad trans-fats. It is a complicated issue, and sadly, most doctors have no idea about the causes or proper treatment. It does run in my family, so that I do believe is a factor in why I have it now.
Whoa! So much false info being passed along here on this thread. I picked this one to quote because trans-fats are not natural-- they're man-made (natural unsaturated oils are arificially hydrogenated to increase their melting point, making them solids-- like margarine).
If only trans-fats caused DM, then we shouldn't have anybody diabetic until after they had invented margarine.
Here's the real story: type II DM is in fact genetic (very complex, not a simple Mendelian dominate/recessive/ single gene thing)-- but you don't see it until a certain point later in life (kinda like baldness shows up later) WHEN a diet excessively high in carbs is taken-- a classic interplay of genetics AND environment--the old Nature + Nurture situation. That's why so many people can get away with eating all the carbs they want without becoming diabetic: they don't have necessary set of genes.
Elsewhere here I explained the survival value of "diabetes genes." In the jungle, they where a "healthier" genotype. In modern civilization, they represent "disease." Compare this to having a thick layer of fat under your skin: healthy if you're an Eskimo living near the North Pole, disease if you're a Ubangi living near the equator.
Type I is also an interplay of genes AND environment: people with certain immune cell genotypes develop antibodies to their own islet cells only after exposure to certain viruses.
Doctors get little to no training about nutrition in medical school. Medical professionals seek to treat the disease with pills and chemicals. Pharmacy companies do not want solutions or cures; they would lose money. I seek professionals that talk about nutrition, exercise, stretching, and solutions.
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