Alkaline Diet Contradictions?

[Hveragerthi]

Originally Posted by D217

Not sure I agree that their pH levels would be the same.. An alkaline diet is crucial for people w/ or recovering from cancer, and is also a preventative measure for those at risk. It is also recommended to correct and prevent candida overgrowth in the body- which is attributed to an acidic internal environment.

Both cancer and Candida thrive in an alkaline state.

Cancer cells have a highly alkaline internal pH that allows them to survive and drives glycolysis of cancer cells. In addition, studies have shown that a high alkalinity morphs healthy cells in to cancer cells:

Role of the Intracellular pH in the Metabolic Switch Between Oxidative Phosphorylaiton and Aerobic Glycolysis-Relavance to Cancer. Cancer 2011;2(3):WMC001716

Na+/H+ exchanger-dependent intracellular alkalinization is an early event in malignant transformation and plays an essential role in the development of subsequent transformation-associated phenotypes. FASEBJ 2000 Nov;14(14):2185-97

Tumorigenic 3T3 cells maintain an alkaline intracellular pH under physiological conditions. Proc Natl Acad Sci USA 1990 October; 87(19): 7414–7418

31P NMR analysis of intracellular pH of Swiss Mouse 3T3 cells: effects of extracellular Na+ and K+ and mitogenic stimulation. J Membr Biol 1986;94(1):55-64

Extracellular Na+ and initiation of DNA synthesis: role of intracellular pH and K+. J Cell Biol 1984 Mar;98(3):1082-9


If cancer cells become acidic they are killed due to the acidity:

Vacuolar H(+)-ATPase in Cancer Cells: Structure and Function. Atlas of Genetics and Cytogenetics in Oncology and Haematology Sept. 2011

Vacuolar H+-ATPase in human breast cancer cells with distinct metastatic potential: distribution and functional activity. Am J Physiol Cell Physiol 286: C1443–C1452, 2004

Targeting vacuolar H+-ATPases as a new strategy against cancer. Cancer Res 2007 Nov 15;67(22):10627-30

Vacuolar H(+)-ATPase signaling pathway in cancer. Curr Protein Pept Sci 2012 Mar;13(2):152-63



Candida is a normal part of everyone's body, but is kept in check by the acids produced by our flora. These acids turn off the Candida growth gene and keep the Candida in its benign yeast form. When the flora are decreased the pH of the terrain becomes alkaline turning on the Candida growth gene and morphing the Candida in to its pathogenic fungal form resulting in candidiasis. See:

http://curezone.info/forums/fm.asp?i=1452732#i

Re: The Candida is Killed by Alkalinity Myth-Repost at The Truth in Medicine, message 1452739

Re: The Candida is Killed by Alkalinity Myth-Repost at The Truth in Medicine, message 1452747

Using Probiotics to Treat Candida

[Hveragerthi]

More on the alkaline diet myths:

Top 5 Worst Internet Health Information Sites: Curezone.org Part 2: Alkaline/Acid Support Forum Part 2 | Alt/Trad Medical Review

The pH Myth: Part 1

The Acid-Alkaline Myth: Part 2


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7O6GhVCvVgE

[jaminhealth]

Keeping a balance is what is necessary. I don't believe I am challenged with candida, my tongue is proof for me. I eat very low carb foods and do very good at reducing sugars.

I was informed years ago that cancer cells thrive on sugars....

There seems to be contradicting info on this thread...here is more info to "think" on:

http://www.cancerfightingstrategies....nd-cancer.html

My own "common sense" tells me the more acidic the more dsyfunction.

[Malloric]

Originally Posted by pooterposh

Of course diet has everything to do with it...are you saying that person who eats junk food all day, drinks energy drinks/diet soda compared to someone to eats fresh fruits and vegetables is going to have the same ph level? Nonsense.

Yes.

[selhars]

I have a relative who is now all head-over-heels for what's called Dr. Sebi's Alkaline diet.
He's saying things like "alkaline bodies don't get sick."
If I hear him say "spelt" and "wild rice" one more time......

I'll check it out (when I get a chance).
But from what little I've seen it's very limiting, and sure doesn't have much on it that draws me to it.